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Old 11-17-2006, 07:28 AM
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Question Oil Change, 5W-40, a no no in 617.95??


I was doing an oil change the other day, and I referred to my trusty "W123 Maintenance Library".....I was seeking the torque values recommended fpr the Filter canister and drain plug. However, just above that info is the "recommended viscosity classes".....I just happend to notice a little footnote...... "2) Except Turbodiesel engine 617.95" I looked closely for the little #2 in the's barely noticable in the 10W-40 column!!!

MB Viscosity Index.doc

I don't use Mobil 1.....but....I copied and pasted the following from the Mobil 1 web page....

Mobil 1 Turbo Diesel Truck 5W-40
A fully synthetic motor oil, Mobil 1 Turbo Diesel Truck 5W-40 is engineered to help extend engine life in modern turbo-charged diesel engines, even those operating in severe conditions such as towing and hauling.

So from reading the above data.....I must assume that MB does not recommend Mobil 1 in the 617.95 engines.....UNLESS there is a service bulletin somewhere...which I cannot find.....

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Old 11-17-2006, 07:35 AM
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No, 5w40 is ok......... 10w40 for whatever reason, can't stand up to the heat of the turbo, 5w40 is all diesel rated oil and therefore designed to except it..........

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Old 11-17-2006, 07:56 AM
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Part of the problem is that when the W123 was made there wasn't synthetic oil widely available, if at all. I think if you use a CI-4 rated oil like the 5W40 M1 you will be fine. I would recommend doing an oil analysis on it, and if it were me I would do an initial oil/filter change after 500-1000 miles but after that I would just have it checked at 3000 miles to see how it is holding up and then establish a good change interval based upon your engine's particular wear and contamination characteristics.

My friend had an '82 240D and we switched it over last fall to 5W40 without a hitch. I know it isn't a turbo but it is from the same era.
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Old 11-17-2006, 09:53 AM
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I am on mile 4,100 on the 5w40 synthetic Mobil 1 turbodiesel oil.....and its running smoother than ever! I'm going to change it within 500 miles since its the initial change from dino and probably cleaned out a lot of sludge...I will then run my next batch of oil for probably around 5-6k. We use the 0w40 in the '83....also going to be changed around 4,500 soon....but then run to 5k each time after that....which means only 4 more oil changes for that car (including the one coming up!) till it hits 300k! The engine has essentially no blowby....its incredible!

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