Parts Catalog Accessories Catalog How To Articles Tech Forums
Call Pelican Parts at 888-280-7799
Shopping Cart Cart | Project List | Order Status | Help



Go Back   PeachParts Mercedes-Benz Forum > Mercedes-Benz Tech Information and Support > Diesel Discussion

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 11-21-2006, 07:25 AM
R Leo's Avatar
Stella!
 
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: En te l'eau Rant
Posts: 5,393
Marlene let me down...gently.

The worn-out manual tranny that I installed in my wagon finally failed. After two years, seven months and 42,000 miles of retreving parts cars, pulling my pig-cart trailer and buzzing, rattling irritation it failed last night in Manor, TX when shifting to 2nd gear after a stop.

I'm a truly blessed man because it couldn't have happened at better time and place since I had spent the ENTIRE day in the car, hauling my 75 year-old father to his various medical appointments. Other than the buzzing and rattling, there was no warning. I shifted 1 -> 2 there was a 'pop' and she quit pulling. Thank heaven for a AAA "RV Plus" membership; the tow truck took me, the car and the dog straight home and we rolled it right into the shop.

I've known for a long time that the output shaft on the transmission was in bad shape and actually have a spare 4-speed on the floor of the shop for this sort of thing but, when I came across my 5-speed a while back I figured that it would be better to go straight to the fiver when I had the the time to do the swap. I guess I have the time now...

__________________
Never a dull moment at Berry Hill Farm.

Last edited by R Leo; 11-21-2006 at 01:03 PM.
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 11-21-2006, 08:20 AM
Registered User
 
Join Date: Sep 2001
Location: central Texas
Posts: 17,290
It did let you down gently...
You have to admit that dragging parts cars home with a 120 hp engine sorta puts a big load on a transmission...
So, did you find the last straws ? Pictures up from the Straw Stacking ?
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 11-21-2006, 08:39 AM
R Leo's Avatar
Stella!
 
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: En te l'eau Rant
Posts: 5,393
Quote:
Originally Posted by leathermang View Post
It did let you down gently...
You have to admit that dragging parts cars home with a 120 hp engine sorta puts a big load on a transmission...
So, did you find the last straws ? Pictures up from the Straw Stacking ?
Yep, I was lucky that it didn't happen yesterday morning on the way to Temple, between Roberts and Pettibone.

I don't think a tranny in good shape would have failed from the towing. That particular box was trashed when I installed it two years ago...I'm surprised it lasted as long as it did. The straw pix are still in my digital..I'll post today. I'm still looking for the last straw but I'm a lot closer to it than I was a week ago.
__________________
Never a dull moment at Berry Hill Farm.
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 11-21-2006, 09:42 AM
Registered User
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Posts: 2,423
The five speeds are rare to find? I was dreaming of a five speed for my newly aquired 84 300dt.Ive seen a 240d which had the 4 spd missing at a junkyard ,some other mb nut is hunting at this yard and Ive got to be quick or else.I arrive every mon. morning to check for any yard parkers that didnt make it.I was thinking, what a waste of good engineering, I could build a pretty descent generator out of one of these 240d motors,I hope to do just that next yr.
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 11-21-2006, 10:30 AM
R Leo's Avatar
Stella!
 
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: En te l'eau Rant
Posts: 5,393
Quote:
Originally Posted by chasinthesun View Post
The five speeds are rare to find? I was dreaming of a five speed for my newly aquired 84 300dt.Ive seen a 240d which had the 4 spd missing at a junkyard ,some other mb nut is hunting at this yard and Ive got to be quick or else.I arrive every mon. morning to check for any yard parkers that didnt make it.I was thinking, what a waste of good engineering, I could build a pretty descent generator out of one of these 240d motors,I hope to do just that next yr.
Chicken teeth are far easier to find than a five-speed that will fit on a 616/617 engine.
__________________
Never a dull moment at Berry Hill Farm.
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 11-21-2006, 10:57 AM
Registered User
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Posts: 2,423
Someone posted from another site about a five speed trannie from a volvo working,you ever heard the like.R LEO , this is dave from the centerville meet in july,that orange 240d still treating you too many miles of free travel?I had my 79 yellow wagon their,it got a new owner over the weekend ,but Ive aquired other mbs from her sell.
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 11-21-2006, 11:05 AM
R Leo's Avatar
Stella!
 
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: En te l'eau Rant
Posts: 5,393
Quote:
Originally Posted by chasinthesun View Post
Someone posted from another site about a five speed trannie from a volvo working,you ever heard the like.R LEO , this is dave from the centerville meet in july,that orange 240d still treating you too many miles of free travel?I had my 79 yellow wagon their,it got a new owner over the weekend ,but Ive aquired other mbs from her sell.
That's the first I've heard of a Volvo tranny fitting a Benz...would definitely be worth a look. I wish I had the time to explore that possibility.

And yes, Nellybell, my 115 is still ginning along; she's my daughter's daily driver and is reliable as the sunrise. After the GTG, I spent a bunch of time getting my SDL going and cleaned up...
__________________
Never a dull moment at Berry Hill Farm.
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 11-22-2006, 09:50 AM
redassag00's Avatar
I like OM603's
 
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: Katy, TX
Posts: 1,243
You have pigs on your farm too?
__________________
91 350SD
14 F150 Eco
19 Fusion Hybrid
11 GT500
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 11-22-2006, 04:33 PM
R Leo's Avatar
Stella!
 
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: En te l'eau Rant
Posts: 5,393
Quote:
Originally Posted by redassag00 View Post
You have pigs on your farm too?
...and you call yourself an Aggie?

EVERYONE in central/east Texas has (feral) pigs on their farms...at one time or another.
__________________
Never a dull moment at Berry Hill Farm.
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 11-22-2006, 05:14 PM
OldPokey's Avatar
0-60 in 10 minutes flat
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Middletown MD
Posts: 527
No pigs on my farm. Just a roly-poly wiener mutt that kind of looks like a spotty piglet.
__________________
1984 300TD

Reply With Quote
  #11  
Old 11-22-2006, 05:43 PM
Registered User
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Texas Hill Country
Posts: 510
I hate pigs...except for eating or shooting. It all goes back to right after I got out of the Army, went on a 4 day drunk with a buddy of mine and woke up in the pig farming business. It took me two years to get back out (could have gotten out sooner, but we were actually making good money!) and I still have many bad memories!

I learned two things. One...always work at something you love. Two...bourbon will NOT go flat if you don't drink it all at once so you can put the cork back in the bottle and quit drinking anytime you want to...or at least before you get into pig farming!
__________________
Mark
1983 300TD Wagon
Even a broken watch is right twice a day
Reply With Quote
  #12  
Old 11-22-2006, 07:45 PM
redassag00's Avatar
I like OM603's
 
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: Katy, TX
Posts: 1,243
Quote:
Originally Posted by R Leo View Post
...and you call yourself an Aggie?

EVERYONE in central/east Texas has (feral) pigs on their farms...at one time or another.

Feral ah. I thought you raised Pigs. I had a summer internship at Texas Farm in north Texas while at A&M, raised pigs for FFA in High School! I love the little buggers!
__________________
91 350SD
14 F150 Eco
19 Fusion Hybrid
11 GT500
Reply With Quote
  #13  
Old 11-24-2006, 01:57 PM
ForcedInduction
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Any idea what the actual failure is?
Reply With Quote
  #14  
Old 11-24-2006, 02:03 PM
TX76513's Avatar
Platinum Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: Brandon, Mississippi
Posts: 5,209
Quote:
Originally Posted by R Leo View Post
Chicken teeth are far easier to find than a five-speed that will fit on a 616/617 engine.
Not that odd
Attached Thumbnails
Marlene let me down...gently.-chicken_with_teeth.jpg  
__________________
BENZ THERE DONE THAThttp://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/...c/progress.gif
15 VW Passat TDI
00 E420
98 E300 DT
97 E420 Donor Car - NEED PARTS? PM ME!
97 S500
97 E300D
86 Holden Jackaroo Turbo D
86 300SDL
(o\|/o)
Reply With Quote
  #15  
Old 11-26-2006, 04:19 PM
R Leo's Avatar
Stella!
 
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: En te l'eau Rant
Posts: 5,393
Quote:
Originally Posted by ForcedInduction View Post
Any idea what the actual failure is?
Just guessing but, I think the output splines were worn out and have ceased to engage the final drive in the tailpiece of the tranny.

I'll do a photo autopsy after it's out of the car. I'm going ahead with the swap to the five-speed but first, I have to stab the spare 4-speed and driveshaft into the 5-speed donor car...I'm moving the five-speed donor from storage to the shop this afternoon.

__________________
Never a dull moment at Berry Hill Farm.
Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On




All times are GMT -4. The time now is 05:32 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2025, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Search Engine Optimization by vBSEO 3.6.0
Copyright 2024 Pelican Parts, LLC - Posts may be archived for display on the Peach Parts or Pelican Parts Website -    DMCA Registered Agent Contact Page