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UPDATE: rough running 82 300 SD in NO VA
I posted about a week back about a rough idling SD. Update and new questions:
it still idles rough. I did clean out the intake manifold line that runs to the vacumm valve. It was about 1/2 clogged. But no effect on the idle problem. According to the W123 manual, it could be a faulty injector pump, clogged injector, worn timing chain or worn cam lobes. Concerning the lack of power, I determined that the engine doesn't have any power when the hose running from the valve cover to the air cleaner is connected to the air filter housing. I disconnected this hose and the car runs like a scalded dog. But it definately won't burn that oily air coming from the crankcase. It smokes blue smoke bad. Someone said the valve guides/seals could be leaking oil, but I haven't checked that far. Any thoughts? |
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Dumb question:
Are you sure the air filter or the air intake is not somehow restricted? How clean is the air filter? I find it hard to believe that you have enough oil vapor to affect the engine power. |
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The air filter is brand new, installed today. I completely disassembled the filter housing and all the air intake plumbing associated with it and thouroughly degreased it prior to installing the filter.
Unless the assembly that the engine ventilation hose plugs into is somehow clogged, I'm at a loss. That cannister is permanantly sealed and doesn't look like it is supposed to be serviced. I dunno... |
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What happens if you put a new hose from the valve cover to air cleaner on? I know someone on this forum had a semiblocked crankcase hose doing the same thing.
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With the hose attached, are you building up pressure in the crankcase, partially activating the shut off valve and reducing fuel to the IP?
We know that if you completely seal off the crankcase by plugging that tube, the engine will shut down.
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with the vent hose properly attatched to the air cleaner assembly, the engine will not rev above 2800 rpm. It doesn't have enough power to shift the trans out of first or second. I can have the pedal to the floor, the engine will rev to 2800 or so and then will drop to idle and then will rev again, but it will not run above that rpm or even stay there once engine speed reaches that rpm.
I'm not a mechanic by any stretch of the imagination, so I don't know anything about crankcase pressures or a "shut off valve" reducing fuel to the IP. And, yes, the engine will stall if that hose fitting on top of the valve cover is sealed; I did that out of curiosity last week, not realizing that I had this problem we are now discussing and the engine did stall. Now as I sit here and type, I realize I have not verified that the hose is free and clear of blockage. That probably should be my next box to check. I was assuming the engine couldn't burn the oily air coming out of the engine. I was planning on routing that air down to the bottom of the engine bay and gone, but I guess I should check the hose for blockage first. Did I mention in the last few sentances I'm no a mechanic but I play one on TV? Thanks for all the help. |
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Another test would be to reconnect the hose and run the engine with the oil fill cap removed. That will stop pressure from building up in the crankcase also. That should tell you whether the problem is from crankcase pressure or from something else related to attaching the hose.
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Is there any chance that the hood or the hood pad is putting pressure on the breather hose only when the hood is closed?
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I suppose it's possible that the hood insulation is pressing down on something, but I tend to think that's not the issue. The insulation is so old and crumbly, it dissinigrates as soon as it's touched.
I cheched the hose assembly last night and they are clear. My other thought is of the cannister inside the air cleaner housing; what is it and could it be blocked? |
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