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Old 12-22-2006, 12:30 PM
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Has anyone tried to locate the internal hardware to rebuild these alternators. I remember in the old days buying the stuff to rebuild my alternator in my 914. Can you get the diodes, or maybe just the whole board? Maybe I'll pull my 65A appart this weekend to see if I can find the failed part. My voltage is fine at the battery until I start the car and it goes down a half a volt or so. Took it to the autoparts store and the found that its only putting out about a half a volt. I plan on selling the car and what to put as little $$ as possible into it.
I don't know if these folks, WAI-Wetherill, will sell retail or not. If not, maybe they can point you to someone locally that will. http://www.wai-wetherill.com/contacts/locationmap.cfm

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Old 12-22-2006, 01:31 PM
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I came accross this statement in 'alt.engineering.electrical' forum and figured I should post it

"many inexpensive meters will, when set to an AC voltage range,
indicate a voltage when placed across a pure DC source. This is because
they lack a coupling capacitor in series with their innards when set to
AC."

I know I've read post's here of people reporting similar VAC results that I did when measuring alternator output's. Apparently you need a decent DMM to perform this test...
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Old 12-29-2006, 10:56 AM
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I replaced the negative battery cable and put a new end on the positive cable and all is well again.

I cleaned up the connections at the alternator too, but I could not figure out how to get the wire connectorions out of the plastic plug in order to replace them. Very frustrating...
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Old 12-29-2006, 12:12 PM
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Rather than replace them, you might try just applying dielectric grease to the connector to abate corrosion. I did this on mine and seems to have eliminated some of the variation in the brightness of the headlights that was occurring before.
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Old 01-08-2007, 12:54 PM
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I replaced the negative battery cable and put a new end on the positive cable and all is well again.
I guess I'd better update this:

Replacing the battery cables only helped, the light ended up coming on again only not as bright and a little less often. It turned out to be the voltage regulator (big surprise ) I just didn't expect the regulator to go bad after only 1 year (less than 10,000 miles). I thought the cold weather had killed my alternator again. Upon pulling it out, I saw that both brushes were only making partial contact. Neither brush was worn evenly, they both had about an 1/8 inch tall sliver of material sticking up. The brushes on these seem to flop around way too easilly, allowing them to lose contact. Luckily I had a spare one from when I tried repairing my alternator last year.
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Old 01-08-2007, 06:37 PM
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sounds like your meter is working fine

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Okay, my cheap Wal-Mart muiltimeter is goofy. I tested the battery on my Jeep now, again it reads about 30 VAC, there's no way all my cars have bad alternators. The battery reads about 30 VAC with the engine off too. I tested a 1.5 volt battery, it reads about 2.8 volts on the ac setting. Somehow, when you put the meter on ac voltage, it reads the dc current and just about double's it. Wierd. Can anybody tell me a decent, yet fairly basic/simple mulitimeter to get? I'm thinking my alternator is ok, I just have a bad connection somewhere...
That sounds about right. There's AC voltage measurements that are peak-to-peak, and then there's the typical RMS measurement. RMS always yields a lower value because it is an average of the power. Take an RMS meter and hook it to a DC source and you'll get a higher reading. RMS usually isn't 2X, but is it a significant percentage higher.

What you _really_ want to do is to get a small non-polar capacitor and put it inline with the meter. That will prevent any DC from passing through but allow AC to pass so you can get a measure of the AC component only. As I recall, good meters have this built in.

However, really, really sensitive meters can pick up stray electrical fields that are creating minute, alternating eddy currents in the system you are measuring. They can also pick up electrical noise and read it as AC, of which cars are notorious for being one of the most electrically noisy environments made by man. Both are unlikely given where you measured and the quality of your meter, just something to keep in mind.

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