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Old 06-01-2007, 10:25 PM
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If u are talking about putting it in the stock air can, u wont gain anything, just use the oem paper filters, they provide suffficient airflow.
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Old 06-02-2007, 12:05 AM
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No gain whatsoever. Maybe 0.0001 seconds faster 0-60 from your lighter wallet.
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Old 06-02-2007, 11:28 AM
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No gain whatsoever. Maybe 0.0001 seconds faster 0-60 from your lighter wallet.
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Old 06-02-2007, 02:32 PM
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I have a new in box one, if interested.
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Old 06-02-2007, 03:10 PM
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I have a new in box one, if interested.
For what year and model? And how much?
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I have a new in box one, if interested.
That's a good place for it.........leave it there........
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Old 06-02-2007, 07:48 PM
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If you have an American car like a Mustang or something and want to get more power a cold air kit with a K&N is not a bad idea.


But these are not Fords, or Chevy's, or have anything in commen with the two. In regards to high end European cars K&N filters a totaly pointless and worthless.
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Old 06-02-2007, 07:58 PM
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Thanks---I think.
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Old 06-06-2007, 06:15 AM
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two. In regards to high end European cars K&N filters a totaly pointless and worthless.

Untrue. If I was going to keep my 95 for a long time, why wouldn't I buy ONE air filter for it???


Or I can buy 10 paper ones? And throw them away when done.


K&N makes sense for a car you'll keep for a while. For the economy of it, not for the performance. My CHevelle is faster with an AC filter by a tenth. Clean paper flows best.,

Everyone already knows that.
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Old 06-03-2007, 01:51 PM
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I like the K&N provided it is used appropriately. I have one on the MB and one on the work truck. Oil analysis, three tests to baseline each before the K&N's were installed and three afterwards were performed. There was NO increase in silica, wear metals, etc. in any of the post tests nor have there been since. If crap is getting past the K&N's the analysis would show it. In my applications, low dust, on road in a fairly wet climate, they seem to work okay. I doubt they work well in dry, dusty environments like the Southwest. I also oil the bejeezus out of the filters.

IMHO, the K&N does have a great application on MB's. Replace that Rube Goldberg affair of a filter on the 617. RT
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Old 06-03-2007, 03:22 PM
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I like the K&N provided it is used appropriately. I have one on the MB and one on the work truck. Oil analysis, three tests to baseline each before the K&N's were installed and three afterwards were performed. There was NO increase in silica, wear metals, etc. in any of the post tests nor have there been since. If crap is getting past the K&N's the analysis would show it. In my applications, low dust, on road in a fairly wet climate, they seem to work okay. I doubt they work well in dry, dusty environments like the Southwest. I also oil the bejeezus out of the filters.

IMHO, the K&N does have a great application on MB's. Replace that Rube Goldberg affair of a filter on the 617. RT
They do not work well in a dry desert with heavy dust just dropped into the filter housing and forget it! But I was literally changing paper filters after every dust storm because they would get clogged in one 100 mile trip. It's worth the effort to make an oil bath for this filter as I'm no longer changing them as often. A rivet gun or welder to put up the divider to form a sump for about 1/2 to 1 inch of oil to saturate the K&N and it works ideally here. K&N being an oil base filtering system is the only one durable enough to take a oil bath and last, but I can feel no difference at the throttle. But I'm glad you mentioned oil analysis because several years of engineering taught me that this is what you base your schedule for oil changes and service intervals and I would recommend everyone do an analysis at least once per year although twice would be better! I change my oil every 5000 miles and clean my oil bath K&N as often as once every 3 months showing how important it is to know the facts about what is going on under your hood. Most of you do not live in a climate where blowing dust can cut your visibility down to 15 to 25 feet and desert dust can turn into an industrial grade diamond in the combustion chamber of a diesel engine! Try a real test. Take a piece of foam rubber and bath it in Marvel Mystery Oil and place it inside of your stock filter assembly and look at it after 3 months of driving and post back what you see in real life conditions. Make sure you use Marvel Mystery oil as it will not break down foam rubber. Cut a piece of wire screen and place it in the inside of the foam rubber to keep it from coming loose. No need to drench it, just make sure it is fully penetrated. This will be a real indicator of how good your filter is. This will be well worth the effort.
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