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Old 07-16-2007, 06:01 PM
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I have had five or six benz motors rebuilt and only one had pistons worn too much to reuse. The machinist can measure the ring lands for wear and make a determination if they are within spec or not.

Also probably good idea to check cam chain . Guides for same also are probably due.

The bottom end may well be good to go, but if the head is off I would have the valves ground and checked for wear and replace any springs, valves and guides that are out of service specs.

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Old 07-16-2007, 06:58 PM
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pistons?? really?

hmm, i've heard that the pistons on this engine are pretty bullet proof. that was why i was thinking that i might get away with this.
re: the head, nope, that's called mission creep man. of course if something was hugely obvious, i'd take care of it, but i have no indications so far to think to expect that.
the timing chain and guide though is another matter. i can always pull the head easy enough in the future if needed. i just want to do what NEEDS to be done while i have the block out.
I.E i need to keep this job to under 1000 bucks. What do you think my odds are?Is the chain something that should/or usually is replaced about now?
thanks for the feedback gentlemen.

Dale
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Old 07-16-2007, 10:10 PM
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You can buy a good used 240D engine for well less than $1000.

In fact you can probably buy a whole rustbucket car for well less than $1000.

I'm speaking from personal experience. Just watch EBay and search on poor looking 240Ds from your area.



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Old 07-16-2007, 10:51 PM
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hmm, i've heard that the pistons on this engine are pretty bullet proof. that was why i was thinking that i might get away with this.
re: the head, nope, that's called mission creep man. of course if something was hugely obvious, i'd take care of it, but i have no indications so far to think to expect that.
the timing chain and guide though is another matter. i can always pull the head easy enough in the future if needed. i just want to do what NEEDS to be done while i have the block out.
I.E i need to keep this job to under 1000 bucks. What do you think my odds are?Is the chain something that should/or usually is replaced about now?
thanks for the feedback gentlemen.

Dale

The chain, again may or may not be worn. The chain guides most likely need changing though.

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Old 07-17-2007, 10:08 AM
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hmmm, ok, so chain guide, rings and sleeves is what i'm "planning for".
Again, guys, i don't want to just plunk in a used engine. If it costs me 500 bucks for one and then i have the same problem...
I just don't like the uncertainty that comes with someone elses used engine. My thought was, spend a little more, like 1000 bucks, and KNOW what i have. Sure, 2 years down the road i might need a head job, but I'll know my rings and cylinder walls are good, and then maybe 3 years down the road i need new bearings and crank work.
The body of this car is in beautiful shape and I'd like to preserve her, but 5 grand for a new engine from metrics is out of the querstion now, and i think a used engine isn't really getting me anywhere, just sort of treading water.
Anyone have any ideas about what i might pay to have new sleeves put in and the honing and planing required?

thanks,

dale
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Old 07-17-2007, 10:35 AM
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I agree that you are better off fixing a known engine than installing a junk engine if you are planning on keeping the car. Don't know about the cost.
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