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08-01-2007, 09:47 AM
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I have a 85 300d and it will not crank. The glow plugs were replaced about 5k ago and the battery is about 2 months old. The glow plug light comes on, but when I turn the key nothing happens.
When I first tried to start her, I heard a strange sound and nothing happened. I tried to put it neutral then in park and still nothing. I did a search and read a jumper wire or 2 screwdrivers to try to start it that way. If that is successful, what could be the problem? Any help would be appreciated, she is stranded in a grocery store parking lot. Thanks Charlie 
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08-01-2007, 09:52 AM
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nutral saftey switch, ignition key, wires, fuse, etc. try the junction block and report back.
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08-01-2007, 09:52 AM
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No cranking can be: (No particular order)
1 Bad Starter 2 Bad solenoid 3 Bad neutral safety switch 4 Bad shift selector bushings 5 Faulty ignition switch. Have you tried whacking the starter with a hammer?
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RRGrassi 70's Southern Pacific #5608 Fairmont A-4 MOW car 13 VW JSW 2.0 TDI 193K, Tuned with DPF and EGR Delete. 91 W124 300D Turbo replaced, Pressure W/G actuator installed. 210K 90 Dodge D250 5.9 Cummins/5 speed. 400K
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08-01-2007, 09:56 AM
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Could be. Sometimes they just quit with out notice. Other times it is some thing along the line that makes us think it's the starter. That is why you trouble shoot to narrow it down. Using the starter jump method by passes the ignition and the nuetral safety switches.
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RRGrassi 70's Southern Pacific #5608 Fairmont A-4 MOW car 13 VW JSW 2.0 TDI 193K, Tuned with DPF and EGR Delete. 91 W124 300D Turbo replaced, Pressure W/G actuator installed. 210K 90 Dodge D250 5.9 Cummins/5 speed. 400K
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08-01-2007, 09:57 AM
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RRGrassi 70's Southern Pacific #5608 Fairmont A-4 MOW car 13 VW JSW 2.0 TDI 193K, Tuned with DPF and EGR Delete. 91 W124 300D Turbo replaced, Pressure W/G actuator installed. 210K 90 Dodge D250 5.9 Cummins/5 speed. 400K
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08-01-2007, 09:59 AM
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Engine grounding caused this problem on mine. The chassis-engine strap was loose. You could try connecting a jumper cable from the engine to the battery and see if that will get things cranking.
A good rap to the starter with a rubber mallet, while someone turns the key, may free the bendix if that is hanging up. Also, a broken terminal connection at the starter could be possible.
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08-01-2007, 11:13 AM
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Just a hint...
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08-01-2007, 12:00 PM
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Like RR said "wack the starter" I would have someone give it a smack while you see if it'l turn over. Also take the lugs off the battery and clean them and the terminals, use sand paper or a pocket knife, make sure the contact is good.
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 1985 Euro 240D 5 spd 140K 1979 240D 5 spd, 40K on engine rebuild 1994 Dodge/Cummins, 5 spd, 121K 1964 Allice Chalmers D15 tractor 2014 Kubota L3800 tractor 1964 VW bug "Lifes too short to drive a boring car"
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08-01-2007, 12:24 PM
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all this whacking advice is for AFTER the terminal jump method fails to start the car.
if the jumper block works, it's not the starter.
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John HAUL AWAY, OR CRUSHED CARS!!! HELP ME keep the cars out of the crusher! A/C Thread "as I ride with my a/c on... I have fond memories of sweaty oily saturdays and spewing R12 into the air. THANKS for all you do! My drivers: 1987 190D 2.5Turbo 1987 190D 2.5Turbo 1987 190D 2.5-5SPEED!!! 1987 300TD 1987 300TD 1994GMC 2500 6.5Turbo truck... I had to put the ladder somewhere!
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08-01-2007, 12:55 PM
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08-01-2007, 01:01 PM
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Dont forget the easiest, most common problem- loose/corroded battery cables
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08-01-2007, 01:07 PM
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Try putting it in neutral to see if the linkage is loose. Sometime you can turn a car over going into neutral. As always.... dont ask me how I know.......
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NC Benz Fuquay-Varina, NC 1979 300D 1983 300D Turbo 260,000 Miles 1984 300D Turbo 345,000 Miles (sons car) OBK #31 1998 Ford Expedition 5.4l (fer Haulin'!) 145,000 1973 19' SeaRay with 115 Mercury TOWER OF POWER! Club Car Golf Cart 36V Ex toys: 1967 Mustang 289 (First Car) Fiat 124TC 1975 Honda CVCC 1980 Audi 5000 Turbo
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08-01-2007, 07:39 PM
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The power cables to stater and solenoid are on the right inside wheel well in front of the battery-thats where they are on my 85 cd anyway. if you short the power to the solenoid you should here it engage, if you can't hear it probably a bad solenoid. If you can hear it but the starter won't turn starter is bad. A rebuilt starter/ solenoid unit is availible at any auto part store. This happened to my 85 a few months ago. The brushes in the starter where worn out and the front bushing was worn too. Old age takes it's toll. Got my rebiult starter from Advance Auto in a day. Good luck
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