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10-04-2007, 10:57 AM
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So PEP Boys supposedly has the Turkish FRAM's? I was looking at autozone yesterday and in their updated filter catalog for this year it doesn't even list the FRAM filter as available anymore....just some STP filter, which I looked at, it actually doesn't look that bad. It was better than the last time I looked at an STP there....this time it was packaged in a plastic bag, included three copper washers and the gasket in another bag, and appeared to have a very fine paper material inside the upper section of the filter. Also, I couldn't find a trace of cotton gin waste in looking at it from the outside. My hengst had pieces falling off of it.
  It was made in India, but I wonder if they improved them a bit? The package was brand new, they must have just gotten them in. The price was $9.29...a bit steep to buy/saw open.... I'll look at PEP boys and see if the Turkish Fram's still exist there....
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02-20-2008, 06:31 AM
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Now,it`s back again and has some "Bio-xxx" label...Bio-Diesel compatible???  http://www.mann-hummel.com/mf_prodkata_eur/index.html?ktlg_page=6&prdsl=6416&ktlg_lang=1&ktlg_01_mrksl=26&ktlg_01_mdrsl=72&ktlg_01_modsl=12&ktlg_01_fzkat=&ktlg_01_fzart=1&ktlg_subpage=2&gobackToPage=1 However,the label lacks in the american version of the catalog: http://www.mann-hummel.com/mf_prodkata_usa/index.html?ktlg_page=6&prdsl=6416&ktlg_lang=1&ktlg_01_mrksl=579&ktlg_01_mdrsl=1&ktlg_01_modsl=1&ktlg_01_fzkat=&ktlg_01_fzart=1&ktlg_subpage=2&gobackToPage=11 P.S. the current wk 716 replaces the old type WK 814/1: http://www.mann-hummel.com/ukmf/upload/doc/HBEES3gdOMP.pdf ...The completely synthetic Multigrade filter media from MANN-FILTER is a milestone in the development of fuel filter media. Multigrade removes more than 90 % of the finest particles (under 5 μm) from the fuel mix. The separation efficiency of this filter media therefore surpasses... page 3: http://www.airnowsupply.com/catalogs/fuel_filters.pdf The following .pdf says 8 to 10 microns for inline WK fuel filters(probably the Micro Top filter media): ...page 16 http://www.mann-hummel.com.sg/EN/industrialfilters/doc/MANN%20Filters%20for%20Liquids.pdf Last edited by vox_incognita; 02-20-2008 at 07:54 AM.
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02-20-2008, 08:35 PM
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02-20-2008, 08:54 PM
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What about the Gold NAPA brand filters? I thought they were made by WIX.
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I randomly picked different makes diesel fuel and filter part numbers from filters that are selling on Ebay. After running them through the Wix filter cross referance I found the most seconday fuel filters are in the Nominal 10 micron range a few were awful up there in there above. CAT and some of the PU trucks with cummings engines have fuel filters around 2 micrions. here are some sites with filter interchanges: http://www.wixfilters.com/filterlookup/index.asp http://www.filtermart.com/fpdbdb/fmccross.asp http://catalog.baldwinfilter.com/
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10-04-2007, 10:06 AM
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I've used Mann, Hengst, Wix, & MB-OEM....... Mostly Mann's............
Have 1 man and 1 MB-OEM hanging around...... Then it's full-flow wix.........
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10-04-2007, 10:27 PM
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I forgot to list that...... I've also used an STP once.......
None of em have killed my motor yet..
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10-04-2007, 11:06 PM
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I have used the STP filters a couple of times now, and it seems like a decent filter....
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02-22-2008, 07:57 AM
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I have a wix in my var now. Sounds like Ill be sticking to them.
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02-22-2008, 08:40 AM
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Now I don't know WHAT to do.
When it comes to second guessing the mb engineers I am very reluctant. I would like to be confident that the filters I use don't put junk in the oil though. Tom W
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02-24-2008, 10:21 AM
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Great Pictures. Guess in about 3K Miles I'll open mine and post them.
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05-01-2008, 11:24 PM
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05-02-2008, 02:04 AM
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When these intense Lube and Filter discussions break out I'm prone to think that if engine operators put near as much focus on other specific maintenance items such as proper fuel preparation (meaning filtering and atomizing) they would better serve their machines. It is perceived that clean lube and lots of it is the path to eternity. You can talk about removing contaminants from the lube but is it not better to prevent it's entry in the first place with good fuel preparation (therefore good combustion) and adequate clean air or good running conditions.
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05-02-2008, 05:15 AM
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after reading all of this "cotton gin" waste contraversy, Wouldnt it just be easier and cheaper to install a spin on filter in place of the cartridge?
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