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Old 11-13-2007, 10:34 AM
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A core, be it a caliper or any other is expected to be bad!!! Thats why you are replacing it.... So, returning it should not be an issue.

As to rebuilding it, although I have not done one, I was told by an indy who had rebuilt a few that they do not last as long. I am not arguing this with anyone in the forum. Jsut sharing what i was told.

I've only replaced one and that was on my 85D recently with a good, used one. The old, bad one is sitting in my garage and may atempt to rebuild it this winter. At which time I will be picking the brainiacs in the forum.

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Old 11-13-2007, 10:40 AM
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As to rebuilding it, although I have not done one, I was told by an indy who had rebuilt a few that they do not last as long. I am not arguing this with anyone in the forum. Jsut sharing what i was told.
He might be right. The condition of the groove for the seal is never all that great on an existing unit. The rebuilds usually attend to this area via media blasting.

He also might not want to expend the time............if he spends one hour on each caliper...........he might as well have bought proper rebuilds.
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The only time a core charge will be refused is if you hand the guy a caliper that is not repairable by visual inspection, meaning if the thing is cracked in half, or one of the ears with a bolt hole is broken off, etc. Other than that, the previous sentiments noted are correct - you are replacing it because it is broken.

The rebuild guys will turn down/grind/polish the pistons and rechrome and final size them, along with the cylinder bores. For a proper rebuild these tolerances are beyond what anyone is going to do without special tooling. They recover most of the returned cores as very few have real damage that won't be addressed by the rebuilding procedure.

I have used a "C" clamp to break a piston free in the past. Just be careful you don't punch through the caliper wall (that will make your core charge non-refundable). And, rebuilding works if there is no damage to the area that contacts the rubbing seal, the square cross section rubber ring that goes in the bore groove on the piston. If there is, well, the fix doesn't last long,

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Old 11-13-2007, 11:20 AM
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And, rebuilding works if there is no damage to the area that contacts the rubbing seal, the square cross section rubber ring that goes in the bore groove on the piston. If there is, well, the fix doesn't last long,
I also suspect that the improper use of petroleum-based solvents is a factor in the premature failure of field overhauls.
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And, rebuilding works if there is no damage to the area that contacts the rubbing seal, the square cross section rubber ring that goes in the bore groove on the piston. If there is, well, the fix doesn't last long,

Good luck, Jim
The question is always the amount of the "damage". None of those grooves are pristine after 20 years. There's always a bit of corrosion and surface contamination. Sometimes you can clean it up somewhat..........sometimes you can't. But, none of them are as good as a rebuild. The do manage to get that area quite clean. I'd be curious to know the required surface finish for long term durability of the seal.

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