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Old 05-27-2010, 10:43 PM
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Where is the tach amp on a 1878 300SD????
Herr Doktor, it should be in the same location as is the W126s', on the inner left front fender. It looks like this when unscrewed from the socket...
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Old 05-27-2010, 10:46 PM
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Where is the tach amp on a 1878 300SD????


You should be able to see it in this photo in the lower portion. It's a 1980, but it should be in the same position that the 1978's is.
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Old 05-29-2010, 02:44 PM
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Yes, thanks to all for the photos and information....

We always called that an 'adapter' so I thought the 'amp' was somwhere else...

How in the devil do your get it apart without detonating cord????
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Old 05-29-2010, 09:49 PM
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Found a cool thing today....

I placed a 3/4" OD x 1/8" thick nylon washer on the top of the silicon potting and re-installed the tach amp cover.

No more bouncing tach.....at leat for the time being.

Who makes a new tach amp????
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Old 03-17-2019, 04:46 AM
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Hi, i know it's been a while, but has anyone got the larger version of the schematic posted in the first post ?
it seems it's now gone and the smaller one is a bit difficult to read.
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Old 03-17-2019, 10:07 AM
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Hi, i know it's been a while, but has anyone got the larger version of the schematic posted in the first post ?
it seems it's now gone and the smaller one is a bit difficult to read.
Copy and Paste the the original image into Paint.
Then you can use the Zoom In function under the View tab (enlarges 100%).
The enlarged view can be additonally enlarged if need be.

In Paint, you can also use the Resize function to enlarge the image the percentage you choose.
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Old 03-17-2019, 02:04 PM
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Copy and Paste the the original image into Paint.
Then you can use the Zoom In function under the View tab (enlarges 100%).
The enlarged view can be additonally enlarged if need be.

In Paint, you can also use the Resize function to enlarge the image the percentage you choose.
it's not so much the lines, it's the missing pixels/information when looking at the values for the resisters and capacitors ect: :'(
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Old 03-17-2019, 03:59 PM
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Some of the values are in the description of operation. Also, if you reverse colors in paint to make out values. Pull the white paper on the LM1815 and more values could be had.
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Old 03-17-2019, 04:03 PM
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Clean schematic

tach amp wire colors for wires 2,3,6?

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Old 03-17-2019, 08:04 PM
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The "Clean schematic" may have one or more errors. The inductor shown across pins 2 & 3 should be a capacitor.

I have repaired many of these tach amps. It was always problems with poor solder joints, especially where 12 V comes in on pin 6 to the 37 ohm resistor. Due to heat and poor solder joints, that connection becomes intermittent, or that resistor is burned out.

Scrape away the potting compound, check and replace the 37 ohm resistor if n.g. (use a 1/2 watt instead of 1/4), re-solder the entire board and you may be in luck.
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Agreed, many pixels missing.

If you enlarge the image, scoot back from the screen, and use your visual closure skills (aka imagination) then you might be able to make out the numbers and letters.

I got:

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Note: 'Unless indicated otherwise'
* All resistor are 1/4W 5%
* All capacitors in microfarads

R1 32 1/2W, R8 360
R2 360 2%, D1 IN914 , C1 100 15V Electrolytic, Z1 5.5V 0.5W, R9 470k
G1 BC327, C5 0.001 110V
R3 830
C3 0.0033 16V Polyester
C2 2 2 25V Tantalum
R4 1.9k
R6 4.7k
R5 1.8k, R10 27k
R7 1.2 M, C4 4.7 10V Tantalum

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I don't know if my guesstimates are accurate, but that's my read of the values.

Edit: Of course a clean schematic is infinitely better.
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Old 01-08-2022, 12:42 PM
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simple circuit to test tach head

I'm not an electrical engineer and truthfully have very little knowledge about circuits but I managed to make this tach tester out of really cheap common parts. It will test the wiring from the socket and the tach itself only. On my 1982 300sd it moves the tach from 0 to 1000 rpm with key on and engine not running. And No, i can't explain how it works. LOL
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Old 01-08-2022, 02:04 PM
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cracked tach amp circuit board

I got the tach working again. Found a crack on the circuit board in the tach amp. I repaired the solder trace and it's good to go.
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Old 01-14-2022, 01:50 PM
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I got the tach working again. Found a crack on the circuit board in the tach amp. I repaired the solder trace and it's good to go.
The 555 timer circuit you built creates a square wave signal that simulates the output of the tach amp. It goes from zero volts to 5 volts and back to zero at a speed that simulates the single pulse from the pickup on the crank being amplified and cleaned up by the tach amp. If this is truly your first go at electronics, well done! And even if it's not, still well done.

Also, good find on the broken trace. Did you span the break with small piece of wire? Just bridging it with solder will work fine but a stronger fix when the PCB cracked is to bridge the crack with solder and a bit of wire. It can be tricky as the wire tends to want to stick to the soldering iron.

I consider solder joints like the one near the top of your picture as being "bad". You can see a ring or circle around the component lead. Some would call it a cold joint, some call it broken. Either way, the component lead isn't making the best contact with the circuit board trace. It wouldn't hurt to remelt that joint and any others that look like it, adding just a touch of solder which will put fresh flux on the joint. That will let the solder flow into the joint, solidifying the connection.

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Old 01-23-2022, 11:15 AM
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The 555 timer circuit you built creates a square wave signal that simulates the output of the tach amp. It goes from zero volts to 5 volts and back to zero at a speed that simulates the single pulse from the pickup on the crank being amplified and cleaned up by the tach amp.

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