Sorta like this:

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1983 300SD - SPARKY THE DIESEL
2004 Audi TT 3.2 Quattro Roadster
1999 SLK - aka - LIL RED
1956 Chevy Nomad - aka - REAL MAD
1940 Ford dbl dr. Deluxe - aka - ORANGE U GLAD
1998 Kawasaki Nomad bike --

I have fun with mine. It has the 369 rear welded and I am running hoosier 225/50 r 14s on stock bundt cakes with about 20mm spacers on front and h and r 1" lowering springs. On launch it will lay two patches of rubber with ease. The welded diff is causing massive understeer though and for next year I am trying to figure a way to put in a limited slip without breaking the bank.

For a street car I would just put on some bilstein hd or sport and some good michelin tires and go. The 15" mercedes rims weigh about 20# while the 14" weigh about 14# so you will get a rougher ride. IMHO you will not be able to feel the difference in handling except for the rougher ride which you will be able to feel.

The 15" rims are ok on the heavier s class but too heavy for the 123 cars, imho. I love the sweet ride of the 240d little aluminum rims which weigth only 10#.

Tom W

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[SIGPIC] Diesel loving autocrossing grandpa Architect. 08 Dodge 3/4 ton with Cummins & six speed; I have had about 35 benzes. I have a 39 Studebaker Coupe Express pickup in which I have had installed a 617 turbo and a five speed manual.[SIGPIC]

..I also have a 427 Cobra replica with an aluminum chassis.

Between this and Jim B.'s advice about driving school. Best answer.
Larger diameter rims will add weight. The 14 inch bundts weigh all of 13 pounds.

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84 CD

This endeavour definately is not a cheap road to go down.

I spent nearly 2k just changing out my bushings, ball joints, rebuilding steering box etc. That was summer 2004. I replaced everything in the front.

Plus 18inch wheels (2k)
plus lowering springs + 700 for my klann spring compressor
plus kmac rear kit
then you are like, well im in here, I might as well do XYZ....so do keep that in mind. Get a w124 or something more updated dont waste your time making a commuter car a sports car like I did.

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Current Stable:
1994 S500 v140, 210k miles, white with grey.

Former Mercedes in the Stable:
1983 300CD Turbo diesel 515k mi sold (rumor has it, that it has 750k miles on it now)
1984 300CD Turbo Diesel 150 k mi sold
1982 300D Turbo Diesel 225 sold
1987 300D Turbo Diesel 255k mi sold
1988 300 CE AMG Hammer 15k mi sold
1986 "300E" Amg Hammer 88k mi sold (it was really a 200, not even an E (124.020)
1992 500E 156k mi sold
etc.

I would restore the suspension (front and rear) to "as new" condition before I even started thinking about "improvements." Anything you do beyond that is likely to bring diminishing returns. If you are really not happy with the handling characteristics of this car (once it is correct), it will be much cheaper to buy a different car.

You can get a real sports car cheap, I bet $1k could get you a nice Mazda Miata and another $1k could make it a nice little track car.

Remember weight is your enemy, and all you need is a drivers seat, gear shift, and steering wheel. Rip everything else out.

Something like that would be a fun little project and you are starting with a car that can run rings around most MB's.

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1969 280SE
2023 Ram 1500
2007 Tiara 3200

this thread is of great interest to me: my '83 300D has always had both handling and tire wear "issues" that need both understanding and fixing. The facts are:
1) bad tire wear on the inside edge of the drivers side front tire (gone in 10,000 miles)
2) poor high speed handling - does not ride the 'rail' - likes to wander.
3) 4 different alignment machines ( shops) show perfect 4 wheel alignment.
4) oem alloy rims with 'H' rated tires for stiffer sidewall stability.
5) no obvious worn parts (lots of new stuff like upper ball joints etc)

The rods that run from near the unibody up to the lower control arm? Have you checked those trust bushings? Just replace them.

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Current Stable:
1994 S500 v140, 210k miles, white with grey.

Former Mercedes in the Stable:
1983 300CD Turbo diesel 515k mi sold (rumor has it, that it has 750k miles on it now)
1984 300CD Turbo Diesel 150 k mi sold
1982 300D Turbo Diesel 225 sold
1987 300D Turbo Diesel 255k mi sold
1988 300 CE AMG Hammer 15k mi sold
1986 "300E" Amg Hammer 88k mi sold (it was really a 200, not even an E (124.020)
1992 500E 156k mi sold
etc.

thanks omegabenz - I have not replaced those particular bushing but since I have it apart in the shop I will now.
Odd, though, how the tire wear issue affects only the one side/wheel... its been like this since I got the car at 100K (now has 270k). No sign of collision.

btw - your benz looks fantastic!

1) and 2) is improper toe setting. You need to have the toe adjusted in. The tires should be slightly pigeon toed at rest to get rid of wander because the tires spread slightly at speed.
EDIT:nvm, brain skipped #3.

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1984 300TD

I posted this a while back... but i cleaned it up the other day for another forum. here is what i did on my 300SD. I'm sure all of this can be transfered to the W123. the 116 sway bar may need to come from a 115. but I'm sure it could work.

W126 suspension upgrades (the cheap and dirty way)


THE BACK

I've installed 3 Nub rubbers in the back, a rear sway bar off of a 116.

I read somewhere that the 116 sway bar fit in the 126... but I can't remember the forum, and i searched all over the place for verification, but no luck. so i went to the pick and pull and laid under a few cars. and it looked like it fit, except its mounted further back in the 116, thus the bar is about twice the diameter as the bar in the 126, to make up for the extra torque the longer arms would deliver. so i thought SWEET. I'll just lop off the extra 3 inches of arm, and drill some new holes....

I took the bar to school, and removed the 126 bar and tried to install the 116 bar. no luck. the 126 bar has a bend in it that moves it out of the way of the rear dif mount. this bend faces the rear of the car. well the 116 bar has a bend also, but since it is mounted further back in the car, the bend bends toward the front of the car to clear the spare tire sump in the trunk. so the only way to make the 116 bar fit was backward!

so i ran to home depot, and bought some steel bar stock. 1in x 1/4in x 3ft cut it into 2 14in peaces. i then cut the arms of the 116 bar off so that only 6 inches of the arms were left. i them welded the bar stock onto the 116 bar. i used a vice and the leverage of the 116 bar to bend the steel bar stock into the shape of the arms on the 126 bar and.... IT FITS!

it rubs on the spare tire sump. so i took a hammer to the sump... it needs a few more wacks. i had to use a razor knife to carve the 116 sway bar bushings to fit into the smaller 126 holders.

I'm currently using the plastic 126 sway bar links. but I'm going to order some metal ones off of a 115/116 to handle the stiffer bar better.

THE FRONT

First I started by chopping 1 360 degree coil out of some front springs i got from the pick and pull. I installed them and the car sat way lower. so low that the oil pan hit the ground and the tires hit the finders. I do have rather large tires on the car. 60/225/R15.. anyway. the car was to low and to soft for my taste. I also noticed that the car was leaning to the drivers side. so i compressed the springs and installed some coil in spring rubbers. this lifted the front of the car slightly and made it way stiffer. i also installed a 2 nub rubber on the front passenger side and left a 3 nub on the drivers side.

the car now sits great. and handles awesome.

the car still leans toward the drivers side. both front and rear are 1/2 inch lower on the drivers side. I plan on making some shims and shimming the drivers side until it matches the passengers side. but I'm waiting on that until i get new tires. because i'm sure part of the reason I've got a lean to the drivers side is because i'm in the car alone most of the time.

attached are some pics of the modified 116 sway bar. and the rubber coil shim i installed in the front. and the spring out of the car with the rubber coil installed in the spring. and the car in the parking lot outside.

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