Engine Swaps: What fits into what? - Page 2 - PeachParts Mercedes-Benz Forum

diametricalbenz · #16 12-07-2007, 03:31 AM

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Originally Posted by pawoSD

A turbo 240 stickshift would be an awesome car. Wow....*drool

I know someoene halfway there. Just awaiting an engine rebuild and the trans swap. We'll see how it does.

t walgamuth · #17 12-07-2007, 06:08 AM

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Originally Posted by truckinik

It really isn't that much work. You can do a complete conversion over a weekend, and it would look and operate as if the the factory set the thing up themselves atleast on the Mercedes Vehicles, especially a small-block 123 car.

Aside from this, What's the actual value of the car from the start..?

I mean a twenty year old 123 car of any type is only worth anywhere from $500.00, to $900.00, in the blue books, especially if it needs an engine to begin with...

We only feel that they are worth anything because we collect them. The reality however is that you couldn't give one of these old clunkers away to most of the rest of the population or anyone who isn't an enthusiast to begin with, they have no value. We like them, but to the most of the rest of the population they are just old worthless loud, stinky Diesel Pigs.

Point is you wouldn't actually do the Chevy V-8, swap on a mint example to begin with..and nobody would bat an eye if you did except for some hard core guys like many of the ones here.

If anything, the average joe would take a bit of a liking to an old slow stinky, diesel, pig Mercedes that now sounds cool, runs on gas, and is as easy to work on and atleast as fast as a Camaro.

"Sleepers Rule"

Just my Justification for the statement.

Nick

There is just nothing here I can agree with.....and, Nick, you haven't actually done one, have you?

The thought of the reinforcing necessary to install a rat motor in a benz...the extra 300#, alone, even an expert with all the tools and materials right at hand would be hard pressed to do in a weekend not to mention adapting every other sub system.

Swapping in a non original manufacturer engine in any car is pretty time consuming, and when you get done, a huge pain to service as nothing fits or works like it would if sticking with same manufacturer engines.

Tom W

bgkast · #18 12-07-2007, 01:48 PM

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Originally Posted by ARINUTS

I'd like to see a turbo 617 stuffed into a very tiny , lightweight vehicle. Maybe something like a honda crx. more mpg and tossable. almost a sports car.

It would have to be mid-engine to keep a desirable weight balance.

spamman450 · #19 12-07-2007, 02:18 PM

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Originally Posted by ForcedInduction

I agree 100%. It took me a solid 36 hours of non-stop work between when I pulled the 300TD into the shop and driving the 240D out the door under it's own power. Thats having all the hard bits already done (driveshaft shortened, shift rods shortened, etc), the engine and tranny already out of the 240D and some decent skills as a professional mechanic.

There is no way a weekend mechanic could put in a non-stock engine over the weekend unless they have some great hidden talent or multiple helpers pulling their weight.

you obviously arent familiar with destruction derby

these guys put chevy motors in everything. and its usually done in a weekend

t walgamuth · #20 12-07-2007, 07:09 PM

a 454?

done properly? Not.

Tom W

truckinik · #21 12-07-2007, 11:16 PM

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Originally Posted by t walgamuth

a 454?

done properly? Not.

Tom W

Just for your information I have my 81 300CD, of which has a 450+hp, Fuel injected, 383 stroker small block, backed by a T-56 Six Speed Standard Transmission and a Jag. Dana 60 Possi Rear-End in it.
I did the conversion a few years ago, and it looks and functions as though Mercedes themselves had put it together in their factory.

The car runs one hell of a fast quarter mile time and is reliable, balanced and handles as though it were factory. I pre measured the length of the driveshaft, location of the tranny crossmember, and a few other things. She's got block hugger headers, and 3 inch dual exhausts.
To solve the oil pan issue I needed to use a front sump, 62-67 Nova oil pan, and pick-up, a Corvette short style Edelbrock Alluminum water pump, The stock radiator is more than sufficient and the A/C compressor is standard G.M. unit.

Front and rear springs are stock 123 diesel springs. With the Alluminum heads, intake, and water pump, High torque Mini starter, and other assorted Alluminum components. The Chevy V-8 actually weighs a little less than the stock 5 cylinder Diesel and automatic that came out of the car.

This whole project was completed from Friday night, and finished on Monday night. So we're talking about a three and a half day job. I planned everything and measured ahead of time. There was almost no cutting or welding and the car could be put back to stock in the same amount of time it was converted in and nobody would be able to tell it was ever more "endowed" at any point in it's life. Or I could pull the small block and drop in a Big Block having to change a few details and maybe the front springs this time around.

I talk of the car all the time, and have talked about it here in the forum before. Atleast three other members here have even ridden in the car on a few occasions.

Nick

gmaltz · #22 12-07-2007, 11:32 PM

Sounds cool Nick. Got any pix?

truckinik · #23 12-07-2007, 11:49 PM

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Originally Posted by gmaltz

Sounds cool Nick. Got any pix?

Yeah, In fact I remember posting them here a while back at some point. I'll put them back up, or better yet. I'll stick a few in my Gallery area.

Currently, I'm Sitting over at M+M's Pool Hall in Hillsborough North Carolina at the moment having a few beers with friends though. Anyone in the area want to come down and join us, feel free, I'll buy you a beer. My turn at the table though.

Nick

t walgamuth · #24 12-08-2007, 07:35 AM

Sorry, Nick, but although you tell a fine story, it would take a huge amount of credible evidence to convince me such a car exists or that it was all accomplised in 3.5 days.

I have done too much wrenching personally on things that were simply stock to be convinced of any of that.

Tom W