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Old 12-06-2007, 07:13 PM
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Ouch! Almost $60.00 to fill up my 85

Darn, but that diesel is flying high. It has been just under $3.60 for quite a while now, while gasoline is sinking a bit. No real bargains at the gas pump either in Central IN. A fellow in my neighborhood has a nice looking 94 E420 for sale. He wants $3650.00 but is willing to look at offers. Car has approximately 170,000 on the speedo. Looks like it might be a good time to leave the diesel and drive something that is quicker, quieter and less costly at the pump. I usually drive my car about 350 miles a week. Anyone in the crowd familiar with those early to mid 90's E models. I see quite a few for sale on Ebay with the 320 V8. I suppose that would give even better mileage.
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Old 12-06-2007, 07:16 PM
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diesel has dropped from 3.49 to $3.35 in the past week.. I'm happy.. only cost me 65$ ish to fill mine
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Old 12-06-2007, 07:37 PM
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It is more than just mpg.

The price of fuel is only ONE component of running costs.

The overall cost per mile should be determinative for the budget-conscious. That takes into account durability, build quality, frequency of repairs, costs of parts, insurance premiums, and other things, such as interest on car loans and depreciation.

True, the cost of fuel is a wild variable and can't be predicted, and it is likely the trend will only be in one direction (and that is up!) but it is only one factor.

Another is safety. Buying a really safe car, that will protect you in an accident, like a Mercedes Benz or a Volvo, should matter, also.

The cost of medical care, or crippling or fatal injuries that occurred because you were trying to save money on fuel by buying a car that was made of paper mache makes a pretty convincing case to stay with Mercedes Benz, gas or diesel.

But every time the price of fuel rises, the sales of the little sardine can/good mpg vehicles spikes, too. I have rented some of those little tiny cars, and they scare me. In a bad wreck there is no doubt you could get killed, maimed, or paralyzed from being in one of them. Not worth it to me.
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Old 12-06-2007, 07:49 PM
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In a bad wreck there is no doubt you could get killed, maimed, or paralyzed from being in one of them. Not worth it to me.
That is completely unfair.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=ju6t-yyoU8s
vs say
http://youtube.com/watch?v=lB0araA0T_k
and sure its got a busa engine in it but nuff said
http://youtube.com/watch?v=f5S1NAMnYKM
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Old 12-06-2007, 08:05 PM
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Well Jim B, I am looking at a Benz

You must have read that in haste, but i did say a 94 E420, unsaid but implied that it is a Mercedes Benz. I don't think the body is as well built as the 85 W123, though I have never driven one. I plan to drive this one on Saturday. It does have the double air bag system up front of course. We could get along very well with one car, and I am kind of looking to go with a more economical Benz and getting rid of the Diesel and the Lincoln. That Town Car has been wonderful for the past ten years, but not economical for city driving. We use it mostly for long trips in the summer, and then it does OK, at about 21mpg at 70 mph.
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Old 12-06-2007, 08:24 PM
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I had a 93 400E a couple of years ago. On the highway it would return 26.5 -27 MPG on a very steady basis - it was actually cheaper to fuel than the car that I was using for a 60 mile per day commute. Guess what model Benz that car was??

Yep, a 240D.

You are going to love the E420 but be aware that its at least an order of magnitude more complex than any W123. The M119 engine is really shoe-horned into the engine bay and its a real PITA to work with.
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Old 12-06-2007, 07:44 PM
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I'm willing to pay for my wreck protection... which is why I just swiped my debit card for the $68.90 it took to fill up last time without swallowing too hard.

Not that it doesn't hurt... but I guess we're all getting used to it.
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Old 12-06-2007, 07:47 PM
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When you're paying £1.10 per litre, then you can complain.
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Old 12-09-2007, 12:01 PM
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When you're paying £1.10 per litre, then you can complain.
Thanks for making me feel a little better, Parrot. So, 1.10 lbs per liter is roughly $2.40 a liter in USD times 4 to equal a gallon, which would be about $9.60 per gallon. Okay, NOW I feel like I'm getting a bargain.
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Old 12-09-2007, 04:07 PM
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Filled up this morning, Exxon 45 cetane $3.19 per gallon.
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Old 12-08-2007, 12:39 AM
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I will gladly pay $3.45 a gallon to not have to walk 24 miles.
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Old 12-09-2007, 11:55 AM
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I keep track of things pretty well, and in the 6,200 miles that I've driven my 300TD I've spent $0.29/mile, including the price of the vehicle. Beats the $0.78/mile over 21k miles in my Trooper, and $1.40/mile over 13k miles in the '00 E320.

I'll keep paying the higher cost for diesel. I don't drive it in the heat of summer because the newer vehicles simply have better AC systems. I can't drive it when I need to tow something either. Other than that, I hop in the wagon when I have a choice.

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Old 12-09-2007, 04:11 PM
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I just bought a F-250 diesel. Filling that will be fun!
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Old 12-09-2007, 04:17 PM
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I just bought a F-250 diesel. Filling that will be fun!
That's about the only fun you will have with it.
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