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Old 01-28-2008, 08:35 AM
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My morning drive is:

.3 miles of neighborhood road, very gingerly, never exceeding 2000 RPM or about 30 MPH or so.
.5 miles of rural 2-lane. Shift peaks limited to 2500 RPM and speeds to 45-50 MPH.
Usually a traffic light stop maximum of 3 min. This morning it was about a minute.
About .5 more miles of rural highway before the on ramp for I-85.

75C is achieved less than a mile up the interstate. All temps are fully stabilized a few min/miles later.

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Old 01-28-2008, 08:40 AM
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My morning drive is:

.3 miles of neighborhood road, very gingerly, never exceeding 2000 RPM or about 30 MPH or so.
.5 miles of rural 2-lane. Shift peaks limited to 2500 RPM and speeds to 45-50 MPH.
Usually a traffic light stop maximum of 3 min. This morning it was about a minute.
About .5 more miles of rural highway before the on ramp for I-85.

75C is achieved less than a mile up the interstate. All temps are fully stabilized a few min/miles later.
That sounds consistent with my experience. Like I said, if I get on the highway it heats up fast but in stop and go driving it can easily be 10 minutes or more until the gauge gets to 75-78C when the outside temps are down below freezing.
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Old 01-28-2008, 08:41 AM
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I usually warm the car at idle for 30 sec. or so before starting out. I live in the country so my speed is 45-55 mph from the start. So for me 5 min. is about 4 miles.
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Old 01-28-2008, 08:50 AM
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I usually warm the car at idle for 30 sec. or so before starting out. I live in the country so my speed is 45-55 mph from the start. So for me 5 min. is about 4 miles.
I must admit I never let the car just idle after starting. I usually start it and go. I've tested mine out and left it outside when it was below zero out overnight. Gone out the next morning and with the outside temp reading -5F and it fired right up like it was 70 out. Never used the block heater either, ever. Just put it in gear and drove off. It is very sluggish and clackety at that temp though and I don't rev it above 2000-2500 until the temp needle moves off the peg.
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Old 01-28-2008, 11:02 AM
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If I didn't have a bad GP, I wouldn'd let it idle at all. I just want it running on all 6 before I take off.

One thing I thought of, and this is just a theory, is that covering the charge cooler might speed warm up because the engine will ingest air that is warmed somewhat by the turbo. I know mine runs up to 15-20 PSI with hardly any demand from the throttle. Over 1 atm should about double the heat available in the intake air.

If you're not demanding the absolute last drop of performance out of your engine in the winter, this may help.
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Old 01-28-2008, 12:01 PM
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I've found that if I leave my climate control on from the night before and let it kick on when the engine reaches 100*F or whatever temp it lets the heat kick on, it takes substantially longer for the car to warm up to operating temp, like an extra five or ten minutes or so. I live about 1.5 miles from my school and if I leave the heat off, it'll get to around 65-70*F in the five minutes it takes to go that 1.5 miles. With the heat kicking on when the engine temp sensor allows it to, it won't make it past the 60*C mark. Try leaving the heat off for a few minutes to allow the engine to build up some heat and see if that makes a difference. Of course, this is with a 617. Your experience may differ.

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