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Old 01-29-2008, 12:21 PM
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Y'all tellin me that nobody wants to buy it for $200 - $300 and clean it up?

This configuration of 300SD is rarest MB diesel. Was built only couple of years and USA export only. At the Australian 116 forum there's folks in Belgium and Netherlands calling it their ultimate dream car, same as we might look at 4-spd w116 3.5

Personally I'd like to grab every 1979/80 w116 300SD knowing they will go nowhere but up in value over the next 5 yrs. Its a damned shame to see em parted out and taken off the road.
That car is a dog its like throwing money down a black hole. Getting it reliable enough to be a driver is going to cost a bit, and everything is still shot its a rolling bomber.

Don't throw good money after bad, its a parts car at best.

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Old 01-29-2008, 02:56 PM
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Getting it reliable enough to be a driver is going to cost a bit.....
Nah, from what the seller says its in drive away condition. Haint no more reason to expect it needs anymore mechanical work than yer typical fleabay $2.5k MB diesel anyhow. Everything else it might need just looks like elbow grease to me.

And yes, spit'n polish would make this one helluva fine daily driver. I aint goin after it just because it'll set me back at least $900 to snatch and drive to Kentucky - darned tempting though.

Folks, am thinkin y'all are suffering from "too low price syndrome" where everybody gits squeemish about picking up and driving home $300-$500 vehicle, dunno why.

Heck the most economical MB I've ever owned was $500 New Jersey 240D that finally rusted to smitherines more than 100k miles and 4yrs later, after hitting a deer too. Yet its still fully functional with excellent mechanicals even to this day.

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Old 01-29-2008, 03:04 PM
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whats a Bio-Diesel

I know what a diesel engine is but what is a bio-diesel engine




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Old 01-29-2008, 03:51 PM
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I'm really curious about the reserve price and what the seller was thinking. It seems like it's at a point where they need somebody to make the car disappear. Probably have issues in MA with the upcoming state inspection.
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Old 01-29-2008, 05:54 PM
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That much rust, it's a matter of time before it disintegrates.

Rust gets irritating when it causes your window regulators to turn loose inside the doors... when it makes it impossible to change the sunroof gasket for fear that the rust that's started in that channel might come out with the old gasket and leave you with nothing to attach it to...... things like that.
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Old 01-29-2008, 06:09 PM
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The old saying,"Nothing's more expensive than a cheap Mercedes Benz", really applies here.
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Old 01-29-2008, 06:30 PM
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The old saying,"Nothing's more expensive than a cheap Mercedes Benz", really applies here.
The challenge comes here, though:

"The only thing more expensive than a cheap Mercedes is an EXPENSIVE Mercedes."

Middle ground is preferable.
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The Don,

A Bio Diesel engine is just one that someone plans to burn Bio Diesel fuel in. The engine isn't any different than a Dino Diesel engine.

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Old 01-29-2008, 09:16 PM
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Nah, from what the seller says its in drive away condition. Haint no more reason to expect it needs anymore mechanical work than yer typical fleabay $2.5k MB diesel anyhow. Everything else it might need just looks like elbow grease to me.

And yes, spit'n polish would make this one helluva fine daily driver. I aint goin after it just because it'll set me back at least $900 to snatch and drive to Kentucky - darned tempting though.

Folks, am thinkin y'all are suffering from "too low price syndrome" where everybody gits squeemish about picking up and driving home $300-$500 vehicle, dunno why.

Heck the most economical MB I've ever owned was $500 New Jersey 240D that finally rusted to smitherines more than 100k miles and 4yrs later, after hitting a deer too. Yet its still fully functional with excellent mechanicals even to this day.

My 300SD that I dumped was in far better shape, and it was shot. The wood and interior is shot, the paint is shot, it probably has an amazing amount of rust. The engine looks pretty beat it certianly wasn't taken care of.

I guess are we disagree on the meaning of "good shape", you see a driver I see something ready for the crusher.
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Old 01-29-2008, 09:39 PM
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Could this car have another 5 years and 100,000 left on it? yes. She's not a parts car quite yet, but I'd be scared to hit anything bigger than a deer.

I know there's a thread somewhere that shows how much rust some forum members cars has, and are still on the road. I can't find it, but there were a few VERY scary examples.

We're getting to that unfortunate point in time when many of our generation of Mercedes will rapidly disappear; leaving fewer and fewer examples for the future. It will be a few decades before taking on a restoration project like this one will be financially prudent.
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Old 01-29-2008, 10:15 PM
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jshadows,

I bought a 300SD parts car with a body worse than that but it was in good running condition. Even had new pads and rotors on the front. So I took off the rotors and put them on my better 300SD.

It ran so good I started driving it as a winter car. It lasted 8 years and ~80,000 miles and I spent next to nothing on it to keep it going. I finally had to make it a real parts car because rust weakened the body too badly. Its still has many parts left but the engine and trans have been installed in another car. The car was well worth what I paid for it.

I never had any plans to restore the parts car. It was way beyond any economical body repair.

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If I was near it and needed a(nother) rust bucket beater I'd probably bid on it. Buy it for ~$500, do an oil and filter change here and there, and drive it til it breaks in half.
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Old 01-29-2008, 10:53 PM
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.... It will be a few decades before taking on a restoration project like this one will be financially prudent.
Unfortunately, this car would not make it that long. It will have long turned into a pile of brown dust.
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Old 01-29-2008, 11:13 PM
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If the milage where true could be a real good parts car. Seldom is though. The more time I have in with older diesel mercedes the more suspicious I become.
Even the ones I think might have accurate odometers still leave me Wondering. In the car world it is a well known fact you cannot put miles back into a car.
Might be possible with excesss spending but even then it is not the same. I really believe there is not another brand of car out there with more odometer problems and manipulation in general than the 123 series has experienced.
Nice to see the liquid crystal type of odometers in later years on other models. . Even these are changeable. Fortunatly the device to do it has been expensive and the risk greater if the new owner finds out. Hopefully this has slowed down the practice somewhat. Just do not count on it.
Check out any expensive cars background carefully before handing money over. I still have no clear picture of expected lifespan of the average 300d engine. All I suspect is it might be pretty high.
I don't think there is a W123 300D out there with much less than 200k, they are old and people bought them to drive not collect. I simply don't trust the miles on any odometer, mostly because it's so easy to change and affects the value of a car more than any other thing. I have heard of people who have special laptop computers and can turn back the miles on almost any modern car.
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Old 01-30-2008, 12:19 AM
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Could this car have another 5 years and 100,000 left on it? yes. She's not a parts car quite yet, but I'd be scared to hit anything bigger than a deer.

I know there's a thread somewhere that shows how much rust some forum members cars has, and are still on the road. I can't find it, but there were a few VERY scary examples.

We're getting to that unfortunate point in time when many of our generation of Mercedes will rapidly disappear; leaving fewer and fewer examples for the future. It will be a few decades before taking on a restoration project like this one will be financially prudent.

Even if it was a 6.9 it would be a stretch.

The 6.9 is the only W116 thats really going to be collectable and probably increase in value. The other models will just be nice old cars.

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