Loremo 100 mpg+ diesel from Germany
 

Here it is. Wonder what took so long. It looks like it is going to be priced right too.

High mileage diesel

I'll believe it when I see it.

Like the man said, why shift two tons of steel around when you are only trying to move a 180 pound human. Er, sure I'm in, but lets just get all the Expeditions , Hummers and semis off the road first.

And I don't think I would like to tangle with a W126 in that either...

Id love this but yeah, I need a tank if im going to stand up to soccer moms in hummers. In my opinion 150mpg is not worth being dead if you get t-boned


And another problem, yes its extremely efficient but does it meet the insane emission requirements for nox in ca? I dont know how they measure this, but im thinking it may be like "for one gallon of diesel, a max of ____ nox can be released".

I think I would buy one.

Very slick!

Tom W

Pretty funky. It'll fare at least as well in an accident with an SUV or big ol' car at least as well as a motorcycle. If I had a good amount of daily driving to do I'd definitely look into it. Should it actually come.

They have my attention. So, you push the windshield/hood up and climb in and out of that space? That does look like it would be a bit cumbersome. I's like the mileage, though. Shoot! I'd settle for EIGHTY MPG. I'm not greedy. . . .

Yea - I'm thinking it will offer a little more crash protection than my Harley Davidson.

So, wearing a helment while driving it would be recommended?

Better MPG and more comfortable seating for 2 :)

i want one! since the 123 was totalled....:eek:

Just in time for $100+ a barrel oil!

does want

though the "doors" are pretty neat. the entire front half of the car swings up... most cool!

that front end makes a very stable crash vehicle, no doors to buckle... two piece design, rigid and light. build it out of carbon fiber and hydroformed aluminum unibody and you got a VERY solid crash vehicle... only problem is it's inertia that gets you in an accident. 2.5 ton vehicle hits you at 35 MPH and you weigh 1 ton or less and you get battered like you were going 60... the vehicle is more stable, but YOU get to absorb more of the impact.
like the guy said, I would love it IF all the SUV's and Semis were off the road.
Great for the total defensive driver, but if you have cellphonitus or text messagealria while driving... you won't live long in it.

high mileage car
 

I'll believe it when I see it.

Me too! But it's ugly as h**l. I'd have to puke before I could get in it.

Its not ugly.. The Pontiac Aztek is ugly

No kidding!

From a guy that has ridden motorcycles for 20 years, anything is safer than that. Sign me up! Plus, after gas prices get above $4 per gallon, trust me, you'll see a LOT less soccer moms driving mega SUV's. When prices hit $3, my dad traded in his GMC Yukon for a Honda CRV!

Hopefully Mini will bring their diesel engine to the US... the european Clubman (the mini wagon) is currently getting around 65mpg!

Hmmm........ the "concept" of 100+ mpg sounds good. But this is a l-o-n-g way from "mass" production.
0-60 in 16 seconds until you flip on the a/c. Oh wait! There is none....it aint happening around here.

Lower "carbon dioxide emissions" from a carbon fiber vehicle. Does anyone else see what I see in that statement, but then consider the author of the article.

http://www.madehow.com/Volume-4/Carbon-Fiber.html

I like it!!!
 

Cool... I like it & would buy one... Love the fuel mileage...
Only issue I see is the Egress... Entry system will allow lots of rain or snow into the vehicle every time you open the door... :rolleyes:
Looks to be about the same size as my 92 Miata which I commute to work in on nicer days... :cool:

As a big fan of the original Austin Mini, I've always thought that the new incarnation was too bloated and refined looking. However, if they were to bring the Clubman D here I'd be seriously interested!

A la the BMW Isetta. The poor Isetta was just ahead of its time. Like the Tucker. :D

I like the entry idea.. Its innovative... Remember the 300SL.. Gullwings.. the Delorean.. Gullwings... The Bricklin - peel the plastic shards from your skin ;)

Its ultra cool

That's not that little three-wheeled car whose front swung out to get in and out, is it?

Yup. I'd really like to get my hands on one. Seriously. Yes, I am that strange.:P

think Urkel mobile... that's what he drove in the show... I think one episode he got it up to "top speed" around 25MPH... funny
about 1/2 way down the page on this one is the original and the concept update from BMW...
http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://media.diariomotor.com/imagenes/isetta3.jpg&imgrefurl=http://joshisjosh.com/&h=207&w=320&sz=12&hl=en&start=7&tbnid=GQUYCV7ufEkiqM:&tbnh=76&tbnw=118&prev=/images%3Fq%3Disetta%26gbv%3D2%26hl%3Den%26client%3Dfirefox-a%26rls%3Dorg.mozilla:en-US:official%26sa%3DG
http://www.motorauthority.com/wp-con...tta_main01.jpg
http://www.leblogauto.com/images/bmw_isetta.jpg

someone in my neighborhood has an isetta(green on white). I also saw one on a trailer (attached to a RV) last week.

There is also the Messerschmidt. I think the passengers sat in tandem. And I like my Bricklin. Those bumpers put the fear in any other sports car along with about anything else. Now if we could just get enough speed up for battering ram mode.
Tom

If you had a head-on collision in that and survived it, you'd never get out of it!

I've got to see some pics of this thing.. I've only seen one and it was not in good shape

Actually, they have four wheels but the rears are very close together.

Good question. I was in the 99 W202 and she was in a 04 Honda Civic. She hit me with her front bumper (strongest part of her car) in my driver side door (weakest part of my car). She fared worse than I did. What was the question again?

Its cool. Someone is trying something new. Maybe not the solution for all people but I think I would buy one if I needed it. I have had 13 crotch rockets so I don't really care about the safety aspect. When your numbers up, thats it. RT

The big SUV's are leaving the building with Elvis...or will be rather quickly! We had better get used to the idea of stranger and smaller cars because that will be the direction the SUCCESSFUL manufactures will go. But in Texas...there must be A/C

My only issue with this car is egress...I wouldn't have a problem, I do lots of crunches and leg presses. But I can see the typical out of shape American fatass trying to "hump up" outta this car!! Help! I'm sitting in my car and can't get out! :eek:

well the AARP crowd is out of the question as well as 51% of america

I like it, go for the upgraded 3 cylinder GT, with AC hopefully and take a major hit in economy, say 80 mpg.

Why not?

I'd go for the bare bones version.. As long as I can roll down some form of window for ventilation.. and it needs some form of sound system I Can plug my ipod into.. Silence sucks

Agreed... It just needs enough get up & go to get out of the way of the common road idiot and be fun....

For the last 30 years or so the marketing mantra has been to make them bigger and faster and people have sucked it up.

Years ago (lets say 1972 or so) 100 HP was plenty of power to do the job ( I'm not talking muscle cars) yet one was hard pressed to approach 1 HP per cubic inch displacement. Now everyone expects 200+ HP in everything and its no big deal to find that in an econobox. Why can't manufacturers produce a smaller displacement engine that develops reasonable useful power? I would think one ought to be able to get 100 ponies out of about 1 litre, but no one seems to be interested until now, maybe.

Rick

um... that would be over 2.7 HP / cubic inch...

Wait, isn't that why we drive MB diesels? :D ;)

other than engine noise...

When I have no music my brain does this thing called "thinking" and it annoys me

It looks very slick, but prototypes always do. Then the realities of production take hold. It looks over priced to me. My feeling is 1/2 the weight and size should be 1/2 the price. 22,000 US is not chump change. That kind of money will buy me a good used 560SEL and fuel it for 7 years. The market in Europe will be much better where you can only fuel the 560SEL for 3 years.

John Roncallo

The question was, why shift two tons of steel around when you are only trying to move a 180 pound human?:D

It only makes sense if everyone else is driving around in 2 tons of steel. The point is, you'd be just as safe in a light car if everyone else was driving light cars as you would be in a heavy car if everyone else was driving heavy cars. Obviously the person who originally asked that question was talking about a mass shift to lighter vehicles, and not just a few individuals doing it here and there. This packing on of steel has got to de-escalate one day, just like the nuclear arsenal of US and Russia did.

The typical econobox weighed at the most, probably what, 2000 pounds? A civic these days weighs 2600+. The new Honda Fit that's about the smallest Honda car sold is bigger and heavier than the first generation Accord.
There are engines that get 100hp/liter (Honda, BMW, high-end Italian makes) but you have to rev them very high to get that power. How many people will want to rev their engine to 8000 RPM? Not many, most people think going over 3000 RPM is hurting the engine.

These days, our crash requirements basically dictate you have to use a lot of high strength steel, which is heavy but gives the car a very stiff chassis. Go look at a crash test of a Toyota Yaris... very stiff chassis. Of course this means we can't have any cars under 2000 pounds anymore.

If memory serves correct 1 Liter = 61.4 cubic inches..

100hp / 61.4 = 1.63 hp per cubic inch, this is an economically obtainable power range... I have a 16 yr old car with a 1.6 liter engine that puts out just over 100hp... Add a turbo or super charger and some modern engine management electronics and that engine will reliably run in the 160hp range...

Joe

It can be done, but they have to be small cars. The Smart which meets all current safety specs, weighs 1800 lbs IIRC. The Honda Insight was about the same, but that one's no longer produced.

I don't care about mileage. Why? Because I can earn back the money way easier than I can repair my body. My number is up? No problem. What if I am severely injured or crippled? That I bother about.

Sounds like the ricer argument of HP/cubic inch. :D

Ah, but Sir, I'd be safer in a 5000# car when others are driving around in their lunchboxes with an engine. :D

The person who asked that question was in marketing so he'd say that. I would if I were him but drive my 4000# car.

Sure thing. You go first. :D