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Old 04-15-2008, 11:29 PM
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Ball joint failure, which brand to buy?

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Old 04-16-2008, 12:21 AM
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I just put in 2 lemforder's. got a whopping 150 miles on 'em. no complaints yet.

I used meyle UCA's.
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Old 04-16-2008, 12:57 PM
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Lemforder.
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Old 04-16-2008, 01:05 PM
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Lemforder....or dealer OEM.....
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Old 04-16-2008, 01:13 PM
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Lemforder, TRW or Moog.
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Old 04-16-2008, 01:31 PM
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Lemforder....or dealer OEM.....
What is "dealer OEM?" Do dealers sell OEM parts?
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Old 04-16-2008, 03:30 PM
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What is "dealer OEM?" Do dealers sell OEM parts?
Dealer OEM is just a rebadged part made by someone else.

That would be a big fat YES and NO!! They buy from the manufacturing company that can make the parts to meet minimum specs, at the lowest cost. Then they are rebadged, be it MOPAR, MB Ford, etc. Since it now contains the car maker's logo, it now becomes "OEM" Just because it is badged to be OEM, does not mean it is of the highest quality.
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Old 04-16-2008, 03:50 PM
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Get Lemforder or OE/dealer ball joints.

OE = Original Equipment, meaning the part comes in official Mercedes-Benz packaging. The part could be made by one of several different mfr's to MB's specs. Genuine Mercedes-Benz OE parts are only available from a Mercedes dealership. If you buy OE parts from MercedesShop, or Performance Products, etc... *they* are buying it from a Mercedes dealer somewhere.

OEM = Original Equipment Manufacturer, meaning the part is made by one the mfr's who makes the OE part for Mercedes. It may or may not be made to the identical specs as the OE part... could be "cost reduced", or parts which failed to be MB's standards, etc, depending on the mfr in question. OEM parts are commonly available from WorldPac vendors. I believe Lemforder is the OEM who makes the OE ball joints for Mercedes.

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Get Lemforder or OE/dealer ball joints.

OE = Original Equipment, meaning the part comes in official Mercedes-Benz packaging. The part could be made by one of several different mfr's to MB's specs. Genuine Mercedes-Benz OE parts are only available from a Mercedes dealership. If you buy OE parts from MercedesShop, or Performance Products, etc... *they* are buying it from a Mercedes dealer somewhere.

OEM = Original Equipment Manufacturer, meaning the part is made by one the mfr's who makes the OE part for Mercedes. It may or may not be made to the identical specs as the OE part... could be "cost reduced", or parts which failed to be MB's standards, etc, depending on the mfr in question. OEM parts are commonly available from WorldPac vendors. I believe Lemforder is the OEM who makes the OE ball joints for Mercedes.

Like Dave and the others have said: Lemforder (who is the OEM or has been the OEM for Mercedes dealer front end parts).
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I see you have a 190D too. When I did a ball joint replacement on my 190D, I bought the part from the dealership and it was a TRW-branded part (MB P/N 124-333-03-27). It has been on the car for 16,700 miles so far without problems.
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Old 04-16-2008, 06:40 PM
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Since it now contains the car maker's logo, it now becomes "OEM".
If it has a star on it, it's OE, not OEM. In some cases, the part becomes OEM when the star gets ground off, as sometimes happens when the manufacturer wants to sell the part on the aftermarket.

There are two basic categories of parts- OE and aftermarket. OEM parts are in the aftermarket category.
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Old 04-16-2008, 06:45 PM
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If it has a star on it, it's OE, not OEM. In some cases, the part becomes OEM when the star gets ground off, as sometimes happens when the manufacturer wants to sell the part on the aftermarket.

There are two basic categories of parts- OE and aftermarket. OEM parts are in the aftermarket category.
Correct. And in the aftermarket category, OEM parts are generally good, often similar or equal to OE. Non-OEM parts can be junk, and in general should be avoided (unless you're on a REALLY tight budget and/or are selling the car. )

Example: Bilstein, Sachs, and Boge are all OEM's for Mercedes shocks and struts. In general the aftermarket Bilstein, Sachs, and Boge "OEM" items purchased through WorldPac, etc will be similar or equal to the OE item you would buy at the dealer. However the KYB or Monroe shocks you might find are most definitely not OEM, and are inferior to the OE/OEM items.


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