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Old 05-04-2008, 08:39 PM
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Nickel dime crap or not, theft is theft.
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Old 05-04-2008, 08:52 PM
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Nickel dime crap or not, theft is theft.
Just like the thief that runs the place. Only he's not a nickel dimer. He takes hundreds.



Jerks are jerks too.
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Old 05-04-2008, 08:55 PM
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Except that he ASKS people to pay his price and they voluntarily pay it.

He is not a thief he is a businessman, a bad one, but definitely not a thief.
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Old 05-04-2008, 09:20 PM
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That guy knows he's got ya by the nads if you show up at his door and he knows he can gouge you because he's the only guy around for 50 miles and everybody in town knows this guy way over charges, going there out of desperation only. Very, very small town we live in, maybe 50 households total, everybody knows everybody so most don't even bother with him . Like I said, he's more interested in the scrap market than dealing with the locals who want parts. That yard used to be a great place for local farmers to get inexpensive parts to fix their old trucks but has now been turned into more of a scrap yard. There is lots of resentment towards the guy from everyone in this area due to his pricing and attitude. My family are mainly farmers, residing here since 1812, and we all appreciated the original owner. This jerk leaves us zero to appreciate. If he would be so kind as to simply say "It's really not in my best interest to sell parts" that would be the end of it.

So if you want to keep yelling at me about being a thief for taking a $2 gas cap, a lighter and maybe a couple tag bolts, so be it. You obviously don't understand the thinking behind one hand washes the other and do unto others. We operate a full time retail business, treating our customers like gold. Not once in 35 years have I EVER had a thing stolen from me. Not once. We are fair and honest retailers and folks leave here happy with not only what they bought but the price they paid. Honest folks making an honest living. We are glad to serve our customers with a smile and even taking time to chat with each one of them. We are treated as we treat others. Thats the way it works here. Your area may be different.....
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Old 05-04-2008, 09:27 PM
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Romanticize yourself as a Robin Hood all you want, a thief is a thief.
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Old 05-04-2008, 09:29 PM
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Romanticize yourself as a Robin Hood all you want, a thief is a thief.
LOL....and a jerk is a jerk.
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Old 05-04-2008, 09:33 PM
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Ahem.... ....back to the topic at hand, and politely at that (and that's what we're supposed to be here for).

Go to www.napafilters.com and fish around. Then hit the "Contact Us" button at the top and call the toll-free number.

daBenz uses the NAPA 3369, mounted before the stock in-line primary filter (overkill but clean fuel is happy fuel). Mounting plate is a thin rectangle with a snap-over clip, and has the holes for you to install your own petcock. I like seeing what is happening.
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Old 05-04-2008, 09:42 PM
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Ahem.... ....back to the topic at hand, and politely at that (and that's what we're supposed to be here for).

Go to www.napafilters.com and fish around. Then hit the "Contact Us" button at the top and call the toll-free number.

daBenz uses the NAPA 3369, mounted before the stock in-line primary filter (overkill but clean fuel is happy fuel). Mounting plate is a thin rectangle with a snap-over clip, and has the holes for you to install your own petcock. I like seeing what is happening.


I did notice that Forced had a stock primary filter on the feed line to his separator and was wondering if there is another primary on the outfeed but I guess one on the out side wouldn't help because I would think the separator filter is of a smaller micron than the primary. Correct? Sounds like thats where you have yours mounted though.

And I'm with you on seeing what is happening. Not much on wiring so I would prefer one without the idiot light. One with a clear bowl would be ideal.

Thank you for bringing us back on topic and thanks for the help.
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Old 05-04-2008, 09:51 PM
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I bought a Racor 500FG for the D, was going to install it instead of the stock filter and pre-filter.
The idea is to have better flow, plus having the clear bowl, cyclonic pre-filtering and 2u filtration. Also it is heated so I wouldn't need to worry about the wax-point of fuel in the winter if I take it out on a cold day.
It does bother me to not know if my filter is clogging, no Racor gauge and no clear bowl, never know when the factory filter is going to leave the engine high and dry. I'm used to the Racor in boats and motorhomes, it just works.

Another great thing IMO about the Racor is the top-loading filter element, the filter housing stays full (almost) when you change the element. If it is after the lift pump, you change the element, start the car with the lid loose, when fuel starts bubbling out around the lid you tighten the wing-nut on top. Really easy and predictable.
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Old 05-04-2008, 10:03 PM
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Bill, NAPA3369 -> hand pump -> primary (clear) in-line filter -> secondary filter (cannister style). In microns thats 10 -> 50 -> 15 or 16. I drain a bit from both NAPA and secondary filters before a day's run, then watch the primary filter when I hand pump before starting the engine. Original hand pump (leather oiled annually), and the loop glow plugs haven't been changed in a very long time. I've also been accused of being a fuel fanatic, but I travel a few miles away from stores that carry parts for these cars.
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Old 05-04-2008, 10:15 PM
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Sounds like you have a good system daBenz, but I am left wondering why the primary & secondary are left on the car. Next question is whether you've ever found anything in the "secondary" when draining from it, which would indicate that the NAPA is junk (at the risk of being blunt).
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Old 05-05-2008, 02:45 AM
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If the fellow charges too much I would take my business elsewhere.

I agree. Theft is theft. If caught one of the questions the office would ask is not "do you think the proprieter charges too much?"

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Old 05-05-2008, 03:56 AM
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You may find that the filter element cost is not an issue. Where I used to work all of the Refer unit diesel generators had similar CAV glass bowel type with a filter element about the size of about 4" tall by 3.5" wide water seperators and in the 3 years that I worked there I never had the element plug up on any of them (I believe they are 30 micron elements). As long as you drain the bowel of the gunk or water the filter element will last a long time. This assumes you have no abnormal tank or fuel issues.
If you are curious about the micron ratings you might be able to find them at these sites:
http://www.wixfilters.com/filterlookup/index.asp

http://www.filtermart.com/fpdbdb/fmccross.asp

http://catalog.baldwinfilter.com/
Wix most often give the micron ratings; the others only sometimes.
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Old 05-05-2008, 06:13 AM
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Sounds like you have a good system daBenz, but I am left wondering why the primary & secondary are left on the car. Next question is whether you've ever found anything in the "secondary" when draining from it, which would indicate that the NAPA is junk (at the risk of being blunt).
And a good question indeed.

I'm wondering how many microns the clear prefilter is and if I should eliminate the one just before the primer pump and keep one before the separator. Isn't doing anything if the separator filter is say 10 microns and the clear filter is 15 microns.

Thanks for the links diesel911. I'll check them out this evening....
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Old 05-05-2008, 12:49 PM
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And a good question indeed.

I'm wondering how many microns the clear prefilter is and if I should eliminate the one just before the primer pump and keep one before the separator. Isn't doing anything if the separator filter is say 10 microns and the clear filter is 15 microns.

Thanks for the links diesel911. I'll check them out this evening....
The WIX version 33149 of the my Mercedes Secondary filter is a Nominal 10 microns. This means that on the first pass only %50 of the 10 micron particles are filtered. The Wix plastic Primary Filter 33006 is a Nominal 20 microns (I have never seen one but it may have a paper element instead of a screen as the screen on my primary fillter look like it has larger than 20 micron holes in it).
As a Primary Filter think that the water separator that leaves a space at the bottom for crap/water seems to work really well even if their Micron rating dose not appear so hot. The empty area allow stuff to settle out before it even has to be filtered.
Leaving the plastic Primary Filter in the there dose no harm and since they always seem to have a bubble in them allows you observe the fuel flow which might be helpful during trouble shooting. On the negative side it could be another source of an air leak.
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