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Old 05-07-2008, 06:55 PM
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This thing has a single banger with no glow plug nor anything other than a compression relief. You crank it hard and drop the hammer on her and she starts on pure compression....

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Old 05-09-2008, 07:52 PM
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I may be wrong but the reason why bigger diesels dont need gp's is becuase the cylinder size if much bigger. The proportion of air not in contact with the cylinder wall is greater. When it cranks, the air heats up and doesnt cool down as fast resulting in ignition
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Old 05-09-2008, 11:49 PM
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Equipment diesels are a different world in some respects from our automotive familiarities. They have different injection systems that make vehicles quieter for the road, and starting systems vary greatly.

My late 70's JD400 with a Perkins 4 cyl engine has no glows or heaters. It does have some sort of screw on dash fitting that goes to a line that went directly to the intake manifold, which has long been disconnected, I can only assume it was probably a propane injection setup of sorts. She fires right off and runs great, unless its snowy or cold enough to snow, then you have to wait until the sun's been on the block for an hour or two.

When the rock hauler's were out here buying rock, I was able to borrow his International dozer, it used to have glows, long dead, he was cheap. He used ether on it regularly, and it had become the only way to start it. Of course, it was well beyond worn out and back....I almost blew it up once, sprayed a bit too much in it when I had forgotten to engage the kill knob, once it fired up.....I thought there was going to be schrapnel flying....needless to say it was the last time I used his dozer, can't afford to replace that.....
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Old 05-09-2008, 11:52 PM
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My late 70's JD400 with a Perkins 4 cyl engine has no glows or heaters. It does have some sort of screw on dash fitting that goes to a line that went directly to the intake manifold, which has long been disconnected,
I'm pretty sure that's the ether injection I was talking about. John Deere put it on several tractors as a last resort, since they almost never need help starting anyway. As in, that one day a year when it wont' start and the cows have to get fed no matter what. I think some cans of starting fluid will adapt to that thing and let you put a quick shot through to the intake. At least at the time they did. Something like that, anyway.
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I'm pretty sure that's the ether injection I was talking about. John Deere put it on several tractors as a last resort, since they almost never need help starting anyway. As in, that one day a year when it wont' start and the cows have to get fed no matter what. I think some cans of starting fluid will adapt to that thing and let you put a quick shot through to the intake. At least at the time they did. Something like that, anyway.
Ether injection...ewwwww. I don't know why it was disconnected, but I guess I'll just leave it off, we all know what ether does to a diesel. I'd rather try propane.

Last winter there was a day I really wanted it to start, it had snowed. I got to trying everything I could think of, turned my propane torch on unlit and stuck it in the airbox, heated the intake with the torch, pointed my heatgun down the air intake on high, heated the IP with the heat gun, I fought it for an hour or so and gave up. I wasn't desperate enough to risk it with a shot of canned ether. After the sun hit it for an hour or so it fired right off.
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