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Old 05-09-2008, 10:34 AM
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603 gurus...head work advice?

You may remember a thread of mine from earlier this year: Diagnosis Confirmation.

It's time to dig into this car and resolve the problem...I've looked at the threads on pulling heads and there's a lot of great info that I've been able to glean. But, before I jump in, I'd like to hear from 60X gurus about anything they think I need to do or look at while the head is off.

FWIW, I still need to pull the exhaust manifold and confirm the head gasket oil leak at chain gallery/#1 cyl interface.

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Old 05-09-2008, 10:42 AM
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have a reputable machine shop check the head for cracks, warpage, any flaws that could pose an issue.

while its out... see how the valves are doing and see if they need any work...

powder coat it?


"while your in there" gets expensive .. but you already knew that
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Old 05-09-2008, 10:58 AM
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"while your in there" gets expensive .. but you already knew that
I was thinking of the ancillary items that may not be found in the head gasket kit...etc.
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Old 05-09-2008, 11:25 AM
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Do the valves, port it and polish it.

Replace the prechambers

Replace the cam and lifters

While you can see them, check the pistons for burned spots and check the cylinders for sealing and 'trueness'

It all depends on how mush $$ you want to throw at it.

Once the head is off it, you might as well do the bottom end too...
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Old 05-09-2008, 11:27 AM
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Oh I forgot...

Change the turbo to a VNT.

Check, clean and polish the intake manifold

clean the exhaust manifold


All these things are off so it is easier to do it then.

If yo are pulling the engine, do the rear seal too
etc, etc, etc...
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Old 05-09-2008, 11:39 AM
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Oh I forgot...

Change the turbo to a VNT.

Check, clean and polish the intake manifold

clean the exhaust manifold


All these things are off so it is easier to do it then.

If yo are pulling the engine, do the rear seal too
etc, etc, etc...
Get real. This car cost $650; read on...

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Old 05-09-2008, 01:42 PM
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I was thinking of the ancillary items that may not be found in the head gasket kit...etc.
Randy, it's too expensive to consider any head work on that vehicle. The cost would far exceed its value.

I'd just replace the gasket and clean the oil galleries to the cam........as Dave mentioned.........and button it back up.

As soon as you start with the head, you're looking at a $1K by the time you're finished with "while I'm in there.........".
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Old 05-09-2008, 06:39 PM
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Randy, it's too expensive to consider any head work on that vehicle. The cost would far exceed its value.

I'd just replace the gasket and clean the oil galleries to the cam........as Dave mentioned.........and button it back up.

As soon as you start with the head, you're looking at a $1K by the time you're finished with "while I'm in there.........".
Yeah, it seems like a halfassed fix but that's probably what I'll do. The beast just isn't worth a whole lot of money and time...getting it running for another 20-30k miles would be just fine with me. I'm precariously close to saying 'pi*s on it' and buying a Ford Taurus...oops, was that my out loud voice?
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Old 05-09-2008, 11:15 PM
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I'd do what Brian suggested. If you start digging you will get to $1k+ real fast.
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Sybil doesn't want too much attention! Do as Brian suggested and then let Sybil roam.......
What an appropriate name you chose as it turns out, eh??
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Old 05-10-2008, 08:40 AM
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Sybil doesn't want too much attention! Do as Brian suggested and then let Sybil roam.......
What an appropriate name you chose as it turns out, eh??
Mama likes her 'plus-size' cruiser. I'm destined to keep it running forever...and, now that I don't do the 8-5 thing anymore, I should have just enough time to be able to to that too.
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Old 06-04-2008, 02:42 PM
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Gasket set in hand, I'm setting out this afternoon to pull the head on Sybill - car of many personalities.

Pray for me.
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Old 06-03-2010, 07:19 PM
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You are never gonna believe this...

So, its been a couple of years since I posted to this thread...mainly because I haven't had any time to work on the SDL since we moved up here to the farm.

Fast forward to today and finally, after a lot of other things getting accomplished, I pulled Sybill's head and to fix the smokescreen application (bad head gasket at #1).

I have it off and am waiting for a few parts so, I decided to check the Forum and see what I'd written before and wouldn't you know, the last post to this head gasket thread was almost EXACTLY two years ago.

Gawd, that's scary.

Sho 'nuf, it's the typical oil gallery failure at the #1 cylinder. And Lordy it's a 014 head too. But, I'll be damned if I can find any cracks in it. While I have it off, I'm replacing all the glow plugs because those darlings look like a gin-yoo-wine PITA to replace once the manifold is in place.

Maybe by Monday or Tuesday Sybill, car of many personaltities, will finally be back on the road.

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