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If it were hit by a truck,or a huge SUV, ironically the frame would be intact and the driver would be safe because it would be like a train hitting a baseball. The car would be thrown or projected off of like a ping pong ball.

Does this theory sound right?
Not to me it doesn't. The internal injuries to the occupants would be severe. Our organs are not designed to go from 80 to 0 in milliseconds.

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Not to me it doesn't. The internal injuries to the occupants would be severe. Our organs are not designed to go from 80 to 0 in milliseconds.
One of my Organs takes like 2 hours to go from 0 to 1 mph in the morning. My brain without coffee. So I guess 80 to 0 in milliseconds would really toast my processors
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Old 05-21-2008, 12:13 AM
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Whats that commercial these days? 1gal of diesel moves one ton of train freight 400+ miles? I am all for centralizing back to trains for freight and passengers. Flying is cool but 120mph on the ground aint half bad either.
186 mph is even better. Like the TGV, Thalys, etc. When you meet another train going 186, you really get a sense of how fast you are going.
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Old 05-21-2008, 01:16 AM
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I mean this is very dumb, but when I think of a profile driver of a Dodge Ram or F250, I think of a 37 year old guy about 6' 2 220 in a rush to get to Golds Gym. I mean do you ever see some bespectacled tiny Simon Garfunkel type driving one of those trucks or some old chubby guy wearing glasses on his way to Barnes and Nobles.
Well, FWIW I'm 45, wear glasses (bifocals no less and my license says I have to wear them when driving), and I'm a little past "chubby" (around 300 lbs) - but I am 6'0 tall. And one of my vehicles is an F250 dually 4x4 diesel - and I'm more likely to go to Barnes & Noble than to Gold's Gym
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Old 05-21-2008, 09:24 AM
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True indeed... but you know that some of "those types" will drive anyway. They got the money. They don't care.

I agree... we should have invested in a national rail system long ago...
it's not "those types" that have the money...
My wife will drive nothing but the HUGE chevy astro... she drives my two daughters around town back and forth to school. she just likes the high visibility of the mid size van. and it can handle just about any cargo she decides to carry.
who pays for the gas... anybody wanna guess?
I mean when she does get some gas because the idiot light came on and beeped to here that she will be walking soon, she does not even check to see how much it was. No, I am the one spending the money to keep her 120.00/week vehicle stays full of fuel... at 15 MPG or so, when she drives it... (ain't it odd that when I drive it, the meeter alway reads around 20Mpg... but it never topps 17 when she is in it... A/C, rabbit starts at the light, awww who am I kidding... it won't change...)

Heck, my SUBURBAN gets better mileage when I drive it than her van does...
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If it were hit by a truck,or a huge SUV, ironically the frame would be intact and the driver would be safe because it would be like a train hitting a baseball. The car would be thrown or projected off of like a ping pong ball.

Does this theory sound right?
Carrameow, Bio said it right. Basically there are two principal dangers to you in an accident: getting crushed and suffering internal injuries from too much force. The Smart does a great job of preventing you from getting crushed but it has limited ability to protect you from impact forces in collisions with heavier vehicles. It's a simple law of physics. The momentum of the heavier vehicle has to go somewhere. As to your original post the vehicle getting T-boned will almost always be at a disadvantage regardless of size. That's quite a vulnerable spot to be hit in because there's not much of a crumple zone there (just the door and B-pillar). There's a good chance the Ram driver would also suffer serious injuries or even death if he were T-boned by the PT-cruiser. Getting T-boned sucks.
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I would much rather be in my wifes Yukon XL than in something smaller. Here is a vid of a Smart vs. an S600. I know which one I would rather be in. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=02eghIfyHP0&feature=related
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What are you talking about? The Smart didn't fail anything.

http://www.iihs.org/ratings/ratingsbyseries.aspx?id=632
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Here's also a link to the earlier (1998-2001) Dodge Ram crash test. I would not want to be in this truck.
http://www.iihs.org/ratings/rating.aspx?id=6
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What are you talking about? The Smart didn't fail anything.

http://www.iihs.org/ratings/ratingsbyseries.aspx?id=632
Did you not watch the crash test video against the S600?
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What are you talking about? The Smart didn't fail anything.

http://www.iihs.org/ratings/ratingsbyseries.aspx?id=632
FAIL.
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Did you not watch the crash test video against the S600?
I did and I didn't see that image you posted anywhere in that video. I'm sure you could also make the S600 "fail" in a collision with a dump truck.
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Yes but the chances of a Smart hitting a larger car is very, very good. The chances of hitting a dumptruck with the S600 are pretty small.
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We're arguing about nothing. I never disputed that the S600 is safer than the Smart. That's a no-brainer. What I was disputing is the notion that the Smart "failed". Failed what? That image that H-townbenzoboy posted implies that the Smart failed the IIHS's crash test. That's totally untrue.

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