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Old 06-13-2008, 10:32 PM
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The wheels on the car go "wubba wubba wubba"...

Just rotated/balanced the tires on my 1999 W210 E300 Turbodiesel with 140k miles. Now I've got a "wubba wubba wubba" coming from the front end.

One of the ContiContactPro 215/55 R16 93H tires has gone down to the wear marks in less than 18k miles.

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Old 06-13-2008, 10:42 PM
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When was the last time it was aligned? Tire wear is usually an alignment problem.
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Old 06-13-2008, 10:52 PM
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When was the last time it was aligned? Tire wear is usually an alignment problem.
Alignment checked at MBZValencia in September of 2006 haven't been curb-hopping, wheel scraping or off-roading so things should still be A-OK.
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We are certain no rims or suspension parts are bent and that the alignment is good, right?

I've had disappointing tire wear while having owned mine. I drive 30k freeway miles a year on my commute. I've done so for 24 years and am accustomed to 50-60K on a set of tires .

I have a hard time getting 35K on my E300 and I'm pretty easy on tires, brakes, etc.
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Old 06-13-2008, 10:58 PM
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We are certain no rims or suspension parts are bent and that the alignment is good, right?

I've had disappointing tire wear while having owned mine. I drive 30k freeway miles a year on my commute. I've done so for 24 years and am accustomed to 50-60K on a set of tires .

I have a hard time getting 35K on my E300 and I'm pretty easy on tires, brakes, etc.
Check, check and check.

Smooth this morning, and then the balance rotation and "wubba wubba wubba". Taking it to another shop tomorrow.

The wear is really weird. Two tires are like new. Passenger front is worn on outside otherwise is fine and passenger rear is worn evenly down to wear marks. It just looks like it's been driven for 60k miles even though it has only 17k miles on it. Have been finding accounts of people having to replace Contis after only 16k-25k miles with average to easy driving.
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Old 06-13-2008, 11:13 PM
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Bop, bop, ah-do-bop, a lop, bam, boom,...

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Er, no, that is a Little Richard song. But ya got me a good laugh.

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Out of alignment is your problem on those two tires.

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The wear is really weird. Two tires are like new. Passenger front is worn on outside otherwise is fine and passenger rear is worn evenly down to wear marks. It just looks like it's been driven for 60k miles even though it has only 17k miles on it. Have been finding accounts of people having to replace Contis after only 16k-25k miles with average to easy driving.
The front tire wearing on the outside has too much positive camber. If it was a toe issue, then it wouldn't be fine otherwise after wearing just on the outside as you described. The rear has perfect camber but the toe is out, probably toed in but which ever way it is excessively toed, the perfect camber allows the tire to wear evenly but at an unsatisfactory rapid rate as you described. I agree, even cheap tires should wear more than 30,000 miles and will if you have a good alignment on all four wheels. On your next alignment, do not let them touch those two tires still wearing like new. Have them work on only the two out of specs.

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Old 07-25-2008, 12:07 AM
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Update

The tires are pretty bad now. I went to the shop that I bought them from and they agreed that they need to be replaced and using the treadlife warranty they will credit me $67/tire.

Lessons learned:
1) Make sure you have a good tire shop that will work with you.
2) Buy Continentals only with caution.

I will be replacing the Continentals with a new set of Michelin Pilot Exalto tires. I've been reading reviews and they seem like the best bet. I will also be sending the car in for a new alignment as soon as possible.

Presently the Continentals are fighting one another, much like the Goodyears before them. The car sounds like a truck due to the noisy tires.
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Ah, yes, it was tires after all...it seems that tire quality today is pretty poor. It doesn't matter how much you spend either, and in fact, it seems the more you spend the worse the tires are. I am running Michelins on my E300 now (MXV Energy +4) and am very happy with them (so far). They have about 10K miles on them and still look about as they did when new and the ride is very smooth on the highway...not a hint of shake. I criss-cross rotate them every 5K to make sure the right rear doesn't wear prematurely as it did last time.
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Old 06-13-2008, 10:56 PM
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Just rotated/balanced the tires on my 1999 W210 E300 Turbodiesel with 140k miles. Now I've got a "wubba wubba wubba" coming from the front end.

One of the ContiContactPro 215/55 R16 93H tires has gone down to the wear marks in less than 18k miles.
"wubba wubba wubba", huh? Well that's better than "WHOMP, WHOMP, WHOMP"!

I just had to say that I literally laughed out loud when I read the title of this thread. Been a long time since I've done that

Is the one tire that is down to the wear bars worn evenly, or just on one edge? 18k miles sure seems low for a tire to be worn out...

Does the steering wheel shake at all?
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I just had to say that I literally laughed out loud when I read the title of this thread. Been a long time since I've done that
That was intended.

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Is the one tire that is down to the wear bars worn evenly, or just on one edge? 18k miles sure seems low for a tire to be worn out...
Worn evenly. It was on the right rear of the car.

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Does the steering wheel shake at all?
Has for some time now. Even before I rotated and rebalanced.
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Old 06-14-2008, 01:16 PM
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Has for some time now. Even before I rotated and rebalanced.
Steering wheel shake is not normal, find a good alignment shop and have the alignment and front end components checked again. Last time I had that it turned out to be a bad tie-rod end.
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Steering wheel shake is not normal, find a good alignment shop and have the alignment and front end components checked again.
That is exactly where I was going with that question...

Do the steering wheel shake and the "wubba, wubba, wubba" seem to be in sync? One shake for every wubba, or two shakes for every wubba, something like that? Or do the speed and frequency of the steering wheel shakes and the noise seem to be different?
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Old 06-14-2008, 03:55 PM
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The shaking is somewhat in sync with the noise, but it was there before the rotation. I will probably have the LCAs, front suspension and alignment done sometime in the next six months.
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I got a problem similar to this. I can't really describe the noise, but it does have the same rhythm to it. More of a metal to metal sound though, and it is only when i am turning right. Any thoughts on this one?
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