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diesel smoke question
How many of you here have excess smoke coming from the tailpipe? Smoke of any color will do. By excess smoke I mean, "any" smoke.
My wagon will smoke rarely, and lightly if at all, under heavy acceleration or heavy load/uphill. I really have to try and get it to puff out a cloud of smoke. No smoke at all under normal driving conditions. I see many other 123's with little or no smoke driving all over san diego. I ask because I was behind a 240D last night on my way home. I've never seen a smokier MB diesel. Had to roll up the window. Sort of got me to thinking that cars like this 240D give other MB diesel's a bad image. I felt compelled to get the driver's attention and tell her to get a tune up.
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1982 240 D, 308,000 - 321,127 miles (sold) 1982 300 TD,166,500 - 226,000 miles 1998 E 320, 120,000 - 144,000 miles 2005 C 230 K, 26,000 - 77,000 miles (sold) |
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Before I performed a turbo transplant, my 300d was the equivalent of a mosquito bomb. I only drove it a block when I bought it and then quickly found a donor.
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1982 Mercedes Benz 300SD w/ Greasecar Kit 2004 Ford F350 Dually 2004 Honda CBR1000RR 1992 Reynard Formula Continental |
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My wagon has a tiny bit of smoke when I first start it until it warms up ... even after a fresh valve adjustment.
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Chad 2013 Jeep Unlimited Rubicon OBK#44 "Pleasure in the job puts perfection in the work." - Aristotle (384-322 B.C.) SOLD 1985 300TD - Red Dragon 1986 300SDL - Coda 1991 - 300TE 1995 - E320 1985 300CD - Gladys 2006 Nissan Pathfinder LE 1998 Acura 3.0 CL |
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All that would have done is gotten you the finger.
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Those are delicious.
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Chad 2013 Jeep Unlimited Rubicon OBK#44 "Pleasure in the job puts perfection in the work." - Aristotle (384-322 B.C.) SOLD 1985 300TD - Red Dragon 1986 300SDL - Coda 1991 - 300TE 1995 - E320 1985 300CD - Gladys 2006 Nissan Pathfinder LE 1998 Acura 3.0 CL |
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yes I know. It was just a thought. She wasn't the MB "pride of ownership" type.
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1982 240 D, 308,000 - 321,127 miles (sold) 1982 300 TD,166,500 - 226,000 miles 1998 E 320, 120,000 - 144,000 miles 2005 C 230 K, 26,000 - 77,000 miles (sold) |
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My 240D blows a faint whiff of white smoke at idle even when warmed up, and running on B20. It puts out a little more on cold start, and a lot more on cold starts in cold weather. I'm pretty sure it could use a set of injectors. They're on the list. My 300D only makes visible smoke when flooring it, and it's only visible at night with headlights behind me.
My gas pot smokes a lot more than either diesel. From the timing of the smoke events, and the behavior of my transmission, I suspect the modulator is bad and feeding doses of tranny fluid into the intake under certain driving conditions.
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Whoever said there's nothing more expensive than a cheap Mercedes never had a cheap Jaguar. 83 300D Turbo with manual conversion, early W126 vented front rotors and H4 headlights 401,xxx miles 08 Suzuki GSX-R600 M4 Slip-on 26,xxx miles 88 Jaguar XJS V12 94,xxx miles. Work in progress. 99 Mazda Miata 183,xxx miles. |
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300 sdl smoke a lot with ac on.
Mine 300 sdl underwent repairs at a local shop and after replacing lots of things, getting injector replaced, fuel pump rebuild and a rebuild engine do to local owner shop starting engine with wrong fuel pump timing (half of the listers crack up) i do have now a lot of black smoke out of tail pipe, it maybe a faulty install vacuum because when ac is off there is not smoke at all, riding with ac off is not a option here in sw florida in July of course so i got a lot of weird looking people looking to my mb who looks like a russian truck on a stip climbing. Ac is also repaired by same guy who almost destroy my car and charged me $8500 in repairs. any help will be appreciated.
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i get some light smoke during the morning when its cold and i start er up, because my spray pattern is off on my injectors. but other than that, theres not alot of other smoke.
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Have you ever noticed that anybody driving slower than you is an idiot, and anyone going faster than you is a maniac? As long as they would add one additional commandment for you to keep thy religion to thyself. George Carlin (Wonder where he is now..) 1981 240d (engine donor 1983 240d) recently rebuilt engine hurray! - No more.. fought a tree and the tree won. pearl black 1983 240d 4speed (Converted!@$$%) atleast the tranny was rebuilt. |
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Just for tailgaters
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If it's been driven a lot around town without an Italian tuneup (my wife's been driving it), I can and do make it smoke a lot if I get someone tailing me too close. Just pedal to the floor, make it down shift, and bury the tailgater in black smoke. They usually get the message.
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Charles 1983 300D, bought new, 215k+ miles, donated to Purple Hearts veterans charity but I have parts for sale: http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/mercedes-benz-cars-sale/296386-fs-1-owner-83-mb-300d-turbo-rebuild-parts.html |
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Did somebody say smoke????
Man I loved this old wagon.
![]() My first MB and The Flash had loads of personality. He also had a problem that neither me with the advice of pretty much everybody on here at the time, nor my indy mechanic could find: ![]() ![]() ![]() It was unbelievably embarrassing to drive. It didn't smoke during accelleration, only during idle or coasting to a stop. I even got pulled over for excessive smoking, but of course I was "legal". Sold him on ebay to a guy from Florida. Watched it drive off down the road, SMOKING!!!!! BTW, it wasn't steam. Compression was good, valve stem seals and guides replace,d valves adjusted and verified 2 more times, injectors twice, injection pump, vac. pump OK, etc... I'll never know........ My wagon and the 240's smoke some if you are driving behind them, but you can't see it out the back when you are driving.
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Jimmy L. '05 Acura TL 6MT ![]() 2001 ML430 My Spare Gone: '95 E300 188K "Batmobile" Texas Unfriendly Black '85 300TD 235K "The Wagon" Texas Friendly White '80 240D 154K "China" ![]() '81 300TD 240K "Smash" '80 240D 230K "The Squash" '81 240D 293K"Scar" Rear ended harder than Elton John |
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If its in proper tune you should get a nice puff of black smoke when you floor it, thats the rack dumping fuel into the engine before the turbo can catch up. All diesels unless its a CDI with tons of computer controls should do that. Also maybe a little puff when you start it, more so when its very cold. A very cold diesel will smoke a bit at idle, not much you can do about that.
Other than that you shouldn't see any visable smoke in your rear view mirror. You can make smoke, if you keep the rpm's below 2k for 500 miles than get on it. Or with a 603 if you drive it around town than get on it, it will smoke a bit. I wouldn't let a diesel soot up for long, they are ment to be run pretty hard. Every diesel I have owned, even the 300SD which I thought smoked a lot always passed CT emissions at laughable low levels. The SDL almost doesn't register on the scale. I said to the emissions guy this is a joke. He said some MB's don't pass. I was like they must be real POS's because even my junk smokey beater was only at 1/4 the legel level.
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2016 Corvette Stingray 2LT 1969 280SE 2023 Ram 1500 2007 Tiara 3200 |
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I have a bit of smoke on startup, but it goes away once the engine is warm. I also can see some smoke when it is dark with a car's headlights behind me when I floor it, even with the VNT and 15 psi of boost. I think my injectors could stand a rebuild.
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1979 240D- 316K miles - VGT Turbo, Intercooler, Stick Shift, Many Other Mods - Daily Driver 1982 300SD - 232K miles - Wife's Daily Driver 1986 560SL - Wife's red speed machine |
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My E300 puts out a haze of blue smoke on cold start which clears within 30 seconds. I get a small puff of black smoke if the computer is not paying attention and I accelerate quickly from a stop. I also get a light haze of smoke when accelerating even after the turbo has spooled up but it's only visible to me at night in the trailing car's headlights.
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-Evan Benz Fleet: 1968 UNIMOG 404.114 1998 E300 2008 E63 Non-Benz Fleet: 1992 Aerostar 1993 MR2 2000 F250 Last edited by KarTek; 07-20-2008 at 06:22 AM. |
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Yeah you will never get rid of the haze in the headlights at night. even with a brand new 617 it will allways be there.
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Have you ever noticed that anybody driving slower than you is an idiot, and anyone going faster than you is a maniac? As long as they would add one additional commandment for you to keep thy religion to thyself. George Carlin (Wonder where he is now..) 1981 240d (engine donor 1983 240d) recently rebuilt engine hurray! - No more.. fought a tree and the tree won. pearl black 1983 240d 4speed (Converted!@$$%) atleast the tranny was rebuilt. |
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