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Old 11-17-2008, 10:52 PM
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Almost lost my car today!!!

I put it in park and got out and it started rolling down hill clicking all the way.

I am also having starting issues ..where i have to push the shifter up to get the starter to engage.My first thought was neutral safety switch.
subsequent research brought up this thread.

Tranny Question: Car won't start in Park, only Neutral

So now I am thinking "shifter bushing".

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If it is a shifter bushing problem, and the car is not going completely into park, ... you might be getting close to finding your car at the bottom of a hill after you park it.

So my question is .... Is this the "shift lever bushing"


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or the "shift linkage bushing" he is talking about..

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that would make the car not go all the way into park.




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Old 11-17-2008, 11:08 PM
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The tapered spool linkage bushings are usually the problem.
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Old 11-17-2008, 11:24 PM
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Sounds like the parking brake need some adjustment and/or should have been used.

shifter bushings probably need replacing also.

I see this all the time, people slam it into park and jump out and the car is rocking back and fourth. It is a little stress full on the trans.

yesterday at Home Depot a newer car roll back into the side of another car. luckly no one was walking behind it.

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Old 11-17-2008, 11:37 PM
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My parking brake doesn't work, so I always gently allow it to catch on the prawler (slowly release brakes) and it has always been trusty for me. Also, I avoid hills.
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Old 11-17-2008, 11:55 PM
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Thanks for the responses..
But back to my original question ..
Is the part the "shift lever bushing" or the "shift linkage bushing" that i want to buy to fix this.??..anyone??
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Old 11-18-2008, 12:50 AM
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My parking brake doesn't work, so I always gently allow it to catch on the prawler (slowly release brakes) and it has always been trusty for me. Also, I avoid hills.
You should fix it. It would probably take about 10 min of adjustment to the rear shoes.
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Old 11-18-2008, 01:54 AM
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Thanks for the responses..
But back to my original question ..
Is the part the "shift lever bushing" or the "shift linkage bushing" that i want to buy to fix this.??..anyone??
I believe it is the shift linkage bushing based on my own past experience, but then again you are the only one that can investigate your own car. I would get them all to be honest.
The shift linkage bushing replacement I do believe is by far the most aggravating job I have done to these cars in 4 years!!! Buy the tool!!!!!
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BTW, you are the benchmark for having a problem, searching said problem and posting with all your ducks in a row. Very nice!!!!

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The ol' bolt and washer method will work, but it isn't close to being as easy as using the tool. It is worth it at twice that price......
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Old 11-18-2008, 07:50 AM
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You should fix it. It would probably take about 10 min of adjustment to the rear shoes.
Not so simple.....I fully replaced and adjusted the shoes last time I did my rear brakes....about 3 years ago. The parking brakes worked awesome for about 1.5 years, then one day as I applied them the pedal bounced back at me, and it was all springy. Its "in the middle" of the travel....it doesn't come all the way up even if I try to pull it with my foot. It goes all the way down but doesn't hold the car at all. I think one of my parking brake cables snapped....

What is it with W126 parking brakes? They don't work on any of our SD's! The 300D has an amazing parking brake. It rusted out on the minivan and snapped....not a surprise there.

I've been planning to get it all working again when I need to replace my rear brakes....which is probably still a ways away.
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What chassis do you have?

If it's a 123, it's an easy job to replace both the shifter bushings and the linkage bushings. Why not do it all at once?

126 is a little more difficult because you have to remove the center console to get the shifter out (but a good time to replace those burned out bulbs in the climate control, etc.)

I did both my 126 and 123 earlier this year and it made a world of difference. No special tools required if you pull the shifter out.

Lots of threads...do some searching and reading.
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Old 11-18-2008, 09:30 AM
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Is the part the "shift lever bushing" or the "shift linkage bushing" that i want to buy to fix this.??..anyone??
To answer that question, you need to spend a little time underneath your vehicle. A visual inspection of the linkages, while someone exercises the shift lever, should be quite revealing.
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What chassis do you have?

If it's a 123, it's an easy job to replace both the shifter bushings and the linkage bushings. Why not do it all at once?

126 is a little more difficult because you have to remove the center console to get the shifter out (but a good time to replace those burned out bulbs in the climate control, etc.)

I did both my 126 and 123 earlier this year and it made a world of difference. No special tools required if you pull the shifter out.

Lots of threads...do some searching and reading.
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Sounds like the parking brake need some adjustment and/or should have been used.


Should have been used.

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Old 11-19-2008, 11:18 AM
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My indy told me to quit using my parking brake because it was likely to rust, break, and cause more trouble than it's worth. He said the trans's parking prawl is very strong and would easily hold the car even on a hill.

I had been using the brake every time I parked but don't bother anymore. What do you all think?

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Old 11-19-2008, 12:07 PM
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Get a new indy.


My cars have 150,000 and 350,000 miles (parking brake used every time), and have always worked perfectly. Minor lubrication, cleaning and adjustment are all that is required.
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Old 11-19-2008, 03:38 PM
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The problem is when you leave the car sit for more than a month with the parking brake on. Either way its alot cheaper than fixing a broken or worn pawl.
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Old 11-19-2008, 06:09 PM
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Park should and will hold the car on reasonably level ground.

The parking brakes on these cars are IMO weak, my 124s and 201 have always had parking brakes that can easily be overcome even when my T124 was new.

If you're on ground with more than a little incline, the parking brake is a must. Yes, using it in a salt-climate aka: the rust belt, will eventually lead to the plating wearing off of the cable and it will eventually rust/stick. That will take years, inspect it in the summer and replace when necessary.

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