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Old 11-24-2008, 10:46 AM
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I made my own. it is a under sink RO pressure tank( an LP tank could work, if you tap another fitting for vac)

I use a salvaged AC compressor for vacuum. I already had this for my veggy sucker.

it is a very handy tool to have around.

I did a test once. I sucked the oil out of my 617, then I left it sit for a half hour, after which I pulled the drain plug. not one drop came out. YMMV.

it was FREE.



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Old 11-25-2008, 12:13 AM
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I use one of these regularly for my tdi.
It does a great job.
a woman at work once poured liquid soap in her windshield fluid reservoir instead of that blue stuff .I brought my pela 6000 in and we sucked the fluid out
and flushed it with water a couple of times. For those with veggie conversions
i use this unit to suck veg oil through the system to purge air.
If it was lost,stolen or broken.. i would buy another.

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Old 11-25-2008, 02:10 AM
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Do those "suckers" also work to flush the old brake fluid? MityVac enough for flushing fluid or should I get a more powerful unit? Handheld unit is what I have.
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Old 11-25-2008, 08:17 AM
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Do those "suckers" also work to flush the old brake fluid? MityVac enough for flushing fluid or should I get a more powerful unit? Handheld unit is what I have.
I tried using my MityVac vacuum tester to vacuum bleed the brakes and only succeeded in pulling air past the threads on the bleeder screws. The fluid extractor would do the same thing.

I use the fluid extractor to suck out the brake reservoir and then a Motive Power Bleeder to flush and bleed the brakes. The fluid extractor can then bring the brake fluid level down to max, since the power bleeder fills it all the way to the top.

I also used my fluid extractor to suck out the brake fluid that went into my booster from a leaking MC. I used it to help with a power steering flush and I overfilled the trans once and used it to bring it down to the proper level.

I have the Mityvac 7201 Fluid Evacuator Plus it's large enough to hold all the oil from our diesels with room to spare and you can reverse the pump to dispense the old oil back in the containers that the new oil came in. It also has a rubber stopper in the top with a pour spout if you want to do it quicker but less neatly.

Here's where I bought my power bleeder:
http://store.motiveproducts.com/shared/StoreFront/default.asp?CS=motive&StoreType=BtoC&Count1=292125880&Count2=209266304

I bought the standard European model but I should have bought the Black Label European Bleeder 0109. It has a swivel fitting that is worth the extra money.
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Old 11-25-2008, 08:42 AM
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The pressure bleeder seems to be the way to go for brakes. Mine is a Motive, like Chad's. I use a turkey baster to suck out small amounts from reservoirs.

I guess I'm old fashioned when it comes to oil draining, and I haven't got oil on me yet when pulling the plug. I just let it fall into the screen of the catch pan and clean it up later.
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I made mine from a BBQ tank and a few brass fittings, 1/4 turn valves and an internal dip tube. Works great. After hot draining from the plug for an hour or two once, I still got at least a pint more with the vac. sucker. It's easier, works better and less mess, what's not to like.

BTW, I pressurize it so I can empty it thru the dip tube.
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Old 11-25-2008, 12:19 PM
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I bought a Topsider which works good. Get a little oil on the rubber gaskets to make sure they seal good and be sure to oil the pump regularly (air tool oil seems to work great) so it makes good suction.
Sometimes I'll hook my shopvac up instead of the hand pump but I like the quietness of the hand pump...
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Old 11-25-2008, 04:34 PM
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Just an observation on drain vs extract:

I removed the pan on my 603.970 engine last night, I had extracted the oil using my Topsider through the dipstick hole / plastic tube deal a couple of months ago.

There were perhaps 1-2oz in the pan, barely enough to spill, most of which probably dripped down in the past couple of months.

I'm satisfied that it is as thorough as draining the oil.

The only advantage that I can see to draining the oil is: If there's something wrong and there are parts etc., in the pan, you won't see them with the extraction method, might not with draining it either unless you watch the oil come out or put it in a clear-bottom pan, ... I'm very happy with the results of the extraction though.

Now if I could get that little plastic line to work its way into the oil cooler, ...
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Old 11-25-2008, 04:40 PM
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. . . The only advantage that I can see to draining the oil is: If there's something wrong and there are parts etc., in the pan, you won't see them with the extraction method, might not with draining it either unless you watch the oil come out or put it in a clear-bottom pan . . .
Draining the oil from underneath also gives you the opportunity to pull the belly pan (if so equipped) and check out the underside of the engine bay for loose/damaged stuff. As a convert to the topsider method, I find that I don't look underneath as much anymore and probably should do so as a part of PM.

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Old 11-25-2008, 04:47 PM
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Good point, it's when I used to look at the steering and suspension also, now I don't.
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Good thread

I was thinking about buying one of these for my w203. Glad to hear that the MV 7201 will also work well with the om617/616. No?
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I seen this unit on alot of websites how good are they at extracting oil and sludge i'm curious if they're as good or possibly better at removing engine oil than letting it gravity drain? anyone use these? i've heard they're great for vacuuming out atf before removing the pan and using to bleed brakes? I'm kinda skeptical cause it would be alot easier anyone use these?
I use a Pella oil extractor, and it works like a charm through the dipstick tube. In my case, I would have to remove the belly pan in order to drain the oil. The use of the extractor eliminates the mess and bother of having to deal with the extra labor, oil dripping down your arm, and the possibility of having problems with the drain plug.



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Should also mention that MB dealers typically use an extractor though the dealership extractor attaches to the top of the dipstick tube rather than sending a hose down the dipstick tube. Has anyone tried a MityVac or Topsider using the dipstick tube?

If you have a second MB Diesel, use the brake booser line as a vacuum source

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Harbor Freight sells a unit that connects directly to the top of the dipstick tube.

It comes with a set of attachments, most of which are poly tubes, but the fitting that holds the attachment happens to exactly fit the dipstick tube on my 606, and is sealed with a pair of o-rings.

Works very well. Takes about three minutes to suck the oil out, compared to about 30 for my old Top Sider.

Other Chinese importers sell the same unit with a different brand. I've seen one marked Northern Tool.
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Old 04-01-2011, 12:04 PM
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Harbor Freight sells a unit that connects directly to the top of the dipstick tube.

It comes with a set of attachments, most of which are poly tubes, but the fitting that holds the attachment happens to exactly fit the dipstick tube on my 606, and is sealed with a pair of o-rings.

Works very well. Takes about three minutes to suck the oil out, compared to about 30 for my old Top Sider.

Other Chinese importers sell the same unit with a different brand. I've seen one marked Northern Tool.
GTK. Need to make a trip th HF today anyways for a new set of torx drivers. I'll check it out.
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Old 04-01-2011, 12:43 PM
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If you read the factory service manual you'll see they first suggest using an oil extractor, but if one is not available then to pull the plug.

I prefer to suck the oil out. It makes so much less mess. Even if I have to stop and empty my 5 quart pella once.

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