barry123400....
It's too late in the year to be running around in Canada with your dipstick in hand....
What if you were to trip on it at night in the rain...?

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1978 Yellow 300D (The Mustard Toad)
1980 Blue 240D (The Iron Toad)
1989 Grey Mitsu.4WD Mighty Max Pickup (Needs a Diesel transplant bad)

(Open the pod bay doors HAL)

Nice to hear from you Yellit. Actually the weather this early winter is remarkable up here. Made fifty degrees or a little higher today. Saw the heavy wet snow falling in your state on the weather channell tonite.

Hope you and yours are well. Have a good christmas. I still tend to get into the general spirit of the season. It still never seems to wear thin for us after all these years.

Unfortunatly a lot of people are probably pressed pretty hard in north america this year. Or expect to be in the near future. The times seem to be changing somewhat.

I still do not have a clear overview of exactly what is transpiring with this economy. Other than overall it does not look good. This time I very much doubt it is a short term blip. Hope I am wrong.

On the otherhand adversary can be a good thing. As a population we have had it pretty good for a long time. It is somewhat hard for me to understand many of the large firms looking for handouts at the end of a good economic period in time. Something critical is not being discussed openly by the media or politicians in general in my opinion.

One last bit of dipstick humour from me. May get me banned.

What does a guy with a twenty and one quarter inch dipstick eat for breakfast? Well Kevin usually I have a couple of eggs lightly over, bacon, toast and coffee.

This thread is degenerating into the equivelent of a womans locker room.

I expect such gents develop a talent for breakfast in particular.

... anyway, I've recently acquired a '79 300 SDTurbo- 200k miles. I have a very humble question if anyone would like to take a swing (...been a long time listener, first time caller).

I've been searching the forum for a number of months and can't seem to find a thread about excessive oil burning in a turbo. I recently drove NYC to Chicago, all fluids topped up, checked the oil after 900 miles and was down a gallon of oil. Did the drive back and the same thing happened. Had seen on other forums talk of the turbo burning the oil (regular oil, not the synthetic type) if the turbo was not sufficient cooled down (ie left to idle for a number of minutes after running at 85 mph). Now, barring a value job, ring inspection, making sure there a no leaks in the gaskets, poor compression, blow back, etc (I assume it has none of those problems as of Oct when last I had it worked on) ... is the a plausible explanation?

Any thoughts would be appreciated, or if you know of a thread that already answers this type of question.....I would be very grately.


Now did you hear the one about the Priest, the Rabbi and the cicada?

Ok. I do not think the measurements being talked about will answer the question.
I think you need to measure the dip stick TUBE..
then measure the dip stick down the inside from the top to THE MIN OR MAX mark.
I think this is the best way to compare for what counts.
I also think that using the FSM amount of oil and doing a careful measure job of the oil put in... then looking at where it hits the dip stick would be a good check also.

I'm surprised no one mentioned it yet , turbo dipsticks are longer than non turbo dipsticks and that's why they're different color handles on the top ~ white or red .

My old non turbo Diesels use a quart of oil every 300 miles or so then stay right there until the oil change interval .

I've been thinking of using the shorter , turbo dipstick to see if the lower oil level uses less oil........

If your engine isn't all wet & slimy like the average beater 240D is from overspeeding the engine all the time , it's quite possible it's going through the breather pipe and being burned .

I'm curious as to what turns out to be your problem - I've replaced all those little rubber elbows and O-Rings so my engine is now nice & dry but still it burns off the first quart regular as clockwork , this on the 300 as well as the 240...

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-Nate
1982 240D 408,XXX miles
Ignorance is the mother of suspicion and fear is the father

I did then what I knew how to do ~ now that I know better I do better

Slimy, yes, most so on the passenger side, below the manifolds. I think it's the head gasket, or front seal. Rear seal is dry, and the taboo blocked breather test indicates minimal blowby. Compression is 360-380 psi, starts fine on glows only down to 10F. I think I'll clean the engine and put UV dye in the oil, see where it comes out.

O.K. , umless you've allready done so , it is time to remove and re-seal the oil seperator return tube as there's always a goodly bit of oil running down inside ot , returning oil droplets to the sump .

There's a seal kit and it's not terribly difficult unless you have a turbo equipped car , then it's wise to drop the sump and tap the lower tube fitting up and out of the eingine block .

This is a two hour job unless you've not done it or are a DIY'er then it becomes a simple if fiddly 1/2 day to full day job , be _SURE_ to replace ALL the O-Rings as there's several different ones .

There's an O-Ring on the bottom side of the air cleaner too and you must have all three rubber air cleaner mounts and an un-cracket 'T' support , if you'rs is cracked or broken , DON'T buy the cheap stock one , there's a re-designed one for $32.00 or so .

I hope this helps .

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-Nate
1982 240D 408,XXX miles
Ignorance is the mother of suspicion and fear is the father

I did then what I knew how to do ~ now that I know better I do better

I was so sure that a separator was it cause my greymarket car didn't have one. Bought one from a junkyard, AC compressor was in the way of mounting it on the manifold, so I farmered it in w/ heater hose & drained to a 20 oz. gingerale bottle, as I don't have a hole in the upper pan either. Month or 2 later, that bottle is still not half full. Separator doesn't look like it can be took apart & looked at either.

So an oil passage blowing out in the head gasket is the only thing making sense to me now. I might put a mesh filter on the breather, as a way to rule out blowby for good.

That's odd as I see a LOT of Eurpspec. Diesels and every single one has an oil sperator , it must have one as so much oil is blown out the breather by design..

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-Nate
1982 240D 408,XXX miles
Ignorance is the mother of suspicion and fear is the father

I did then what I knew how to do ~ now that I know better I do better

All jokes aside, the correct dipstick is pretty important. I put a 409 in a '57 Chevy when I was in college - some guys built the 409 for me. I noticed that it kept leaking oil but everytime I checked the dipstick it was overfull. So I kept driving it.

Ran it out of oil and siezed the pistons on the expressway later. Turns out the guys had installed the wrong dipstick and it flattened out in the pan to show overfull oil. Sad story for me and something I will never forget. Cost me my entire earnings over that summer.

It thought it was just for emissions. Didn't start till 82 anyway. Where'd the oil go up till then.

The one I installed either isn't working right, or there's nothing to catch. does it require a vacuum on the drain or anything?

My Euro 85 has no separator or heated seats but does have allot of the Euro stuff, headlights, bumpers. It had under 100K when I got it so I dont think its been "violated".I just figured the separator was like the oil cooler, no need in the "Father" land.

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1985 Euro 240D 5 spd 140K
1979 240D 5 spd, 40K on engine rebuild
1994 Dodge/Cummins, 5 spd, 121K
1964 Allice Chalmers D15 tractor
2014 Kubota L3800 tractor
1964 VW bug

"Lifes too short to drive a boring car"

I forgot to mention that the white handled ones are shorter , by a quart or so than the red , naturally aspirated ones are.

No vacuum is needed for the breather nor seperator , Diesels work differently than gassers do due to lack of intake vacuum , this allows the use of " open " breathers , thus there's always lots of oil droplets flying about .

Anyone here who's going to to-morrow's Irvine/Angeles Crest Highway meetup that has no oil seperator , I'd like to peer under your hood....

The seperators tend to be built into the aluminum air filters base but you'll still need a return tube... the litre bottle should work fine as long as some venting is allowed .

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-Nate
1982 240D 408,XXX miles
Ignorance is the mother of suspicion and fear is the father

I did then what I knew how to do ~ now that I know better I do better