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mechmagcn 01-06-2009 03:48 PM

Glad to see someone else doing swaps using MB engines. I have a 53 F100 that I swapped in a 617 from a 81 300SD and love it. Here's a link to my gallery on FTE with quite a few build pics: http://www.ford-trucks.com/user_gallery/displayalbum.php?&userid=308002&albumid=19458
Are you planning to swap the rear-end gears? That truck with a six cyl and 4 speed should have 4:11 gears, that'll be quite low for highway running. I'm running 3.25s in my truck.
Also check out the pic for another idea for connecting the driveshaft to the MB trans.

panZZer 01-06-2009 05:51 PM

merc 617 in a chebby PU
 
Hey,,,,,,,,,,, have you gott a few screws loose??
just kidding, Hey that looks like North Tx in the background, why dont you stop by next weekend and shove this spare sd moter in my 37GMC I have been plannin,,,,, i 'll spring for a case of LoaNstar beer!

Simpler=Better 01-06-2009 07:33 PM

You're my hero! Looks good so far.

This is the PERFECT time to install a block heater, VNT, and 3" exhaust. Possibly also a 120Amp ALX129 alternator

LUVMBDiesels 01-06-2009 07:44 PM

Getting back to the drive shaft
 
I see the flex plate and the center bearing. How are you going to mate this to the original straight axle in the rear? Are you going to fab up U-joints? If so, what about the center bearing? Of course if you transplant the MB rear and suspension that would make one cool IRS truck!

When I first saw the thread I figured that you would mate the 617 to the Chevy tranny somehow.

GREASY_BEAST 01-06-2009 08:06 PM

Very nice!! Been thinking of doing something similar with a ford ranger myself.

Quote:

Originally Posted by LUVMBDiesels (Post 2070215)
When I first saw the thread I figured that you would mate the 617 to the Chevy tranny somehow.

Can be done with a 4x4 Labs kit.

panZZer 01-06-2009 08:08 PM

He He 4x4 labs
 
Can be done with a 4x4 Labs kit.----------- Dont make me laugh.

cell 01-06-2009 08:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by panZZer (Post 2070233)
Can be done with a 4x4 Labs kit.----------- Dont make me laugh.


No kidding. I emailed the 4x4 labs guy before I started this and he said the kits weren't ready yet. So much for the press release...

cell 01-06-2009 08:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mechmagcn (Post 2069917)
Also check out the pic for another idea for connecting the driveshaft to the MB trans.

Wow, that's really useful info. Great work! This pic especially gives me interesting ideas:

http://jason.pepas.com/photos/oddsan...63.520.390.jpg

sd300td 01-06-2009 08:41 PM

You're awesome. Source some MB seats and definitely use a MB shifter if possible.

cell 01-06-2009 08:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mechmagcn (Post 2069917)
Are you planning to swap the rear-end gears? That truck with a six cyl and 4 speed should have 4:11 gears, that'll be quite low for highway running. I'm running 3.25s in my truck.

Actually one of the first things I did when I got this truck was swap out the rear end gears for a 3.07:1 setup.

According to this rear-end calculator (http://www.angelfire.com/fl/procrastination/rear.html) with 29.5 inch tires, 3.07:1 rear-end, in 1:1 top gear, I should be doing 68.6 mph at 2400 rpm, which is the torque peak for this motor. From what I've read about engines, the point of lowest break-sepcific fuel consumption usually occurs at the torque peak, so this setup should yield ideal mileage on the freeway!

http://jason.pepas.com/photos/oddsandends/om617a.jpg

panZZer 01-06-2009 09:46 PM

4x4 labs
 
[quote=cell;2070272]No kidding. I emailed the 4x4 labs guy before I started this and he said the kits weren't ready yet. So much for the press release...[/quote
They have "not ready yet' ever since people have thought of swapping a benz diesel into something else----Years. I happend to luck into all the stuff from a euro 309d, with a shifter mounted on the rear of the gearbox--truckstyle!

charmalu 01-07-2009 01:26 AM

This is a cool project you are putting together.

Do a search on MERCEDESROVER, he is putting thse in his range Rover
and had made his own adapter plate. not sure is he is selling any kits.


Charlie

Bajaman 01-07-2009 10:53 AM

Oh the joys of a front sump engine. looks like life would be much easier if the sump were in the rear...

cell 01-07-2009 07:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bgkast (Post 2069373)
I hope you never have to pull your lower oil pan. ;)

Actually I had to replace the oil pan before I even got the engine out of the mercedes. It was partially smashed and was leaking badly.

http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/diesel-discussion/237684-time-lapse-video-replacing-oil-pan.html

cell 01-07-2009 07:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KAdams4458 (Post 2069366)
I see the piece of pipe is just being used to mock up the angle of the driveshaft so that the engine and tranny can be mounted in line with the rear end.

exactly. I'm working by myself, and the pipe was the only way I could keep the tranny lined up while moving the front of the engine around. I used 1/2" pipe and (I think) a 1" to 1/2" nipple and a 1" floor mount flange. The center bushing on the output shaft of the tranny fits inside the 1" to 1/2" nipple, so it works great.

if I had to do it again though, I would have bought a 48" piece of pipe, and not a 36" piece. As it was, 36" was just *barely* enough length to keep the pipe in the carrier bearing. If I had moved the engine forward another half inch, the pipe would slip out of the carrier bearing.


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