I am in the market for a w123 Wagon. I've tossed up the idea of putting my good 87 300d's om603 in a gas wagon W124 body since a good w124 diesel wagon is hard to come by and I know my 603's history. But I think for simplicities sake I'm going to go back to a w123 wagon.


So.... what to look for....

Are all the w123 300TD wagons turbo diesel? I think w123 300TD wagons went from 1978 - 1985 is that correct?

thanks!

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-E300d '99 350k
-Suburban '93 220k
-TDI Jetta '03 350k
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-F250 '96 7.3
-Dodge Ram 12V
-E320 '95 200k
-E320 Wagon 1994 155k
-300d Turbo '87 187k miles
-E320 1994 200k
-300d Turbo '84 245k (sold to Dan62)
-300d Turbo '84 180k
-300sd '80 300k
-7.3 Powerstroke Diesel 15P Van 500k+ miles
-190d '89 Non Turbo 2.5 5cyl 240k (my first MB)
Tom's Imports of Columbia MO Ruined the IP in changing leaky delivery valve O-Rings - Refused to stand behind his work. Mid-MO MB drivers-AVOID Tom's.

No. Turbo wagons came in 81.

Seems like I've seen an 80 with Turbo. I know that for SURE the w116 300SD was Turbo in 1980 because I have owned one. I think I've seen an 80 TD for sale with a Turbo Diesel.

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-E300d '99 350k
-Suburban '93 220k
-TDI Jetta '03 350k
Sold
-F250 '96 7.3
-Dodge Ram 12V
-E320 '95 200k
-E320 Wagon 1994 155k
-300d Turbo '87 187k miles
-E320 1994 200k
-300d Turbo '84 245k (sold to Dan62)
-300d Turbo '84 180k
-300sd '80 300k
-7.3 Powerstroke Diesel 15P Van 500k+ miles
-190d '89 Non Turbo 2.5 5cyl 240k (my first MB)
Tom's Imports of Columbia MO Ruined the IP in changing leaky delivery valve O-Rings - Refused to stand behind his work. Mid-MO MB drivers-AVOID Tom's.

The S-class (W126) cars got the turbodiesel before the "pre-E" class (W123). AFAIK, all W123 diesel estate wagons imported into the USA got the turbodiesel engine. Not sure about pre-81, did MB import a 617NA wagon or did they not import wagons at all before '81?

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"Buster" in the '95

Our all-Diesel family
1996 E300D (W210) . .338,000 miles Wife's car
2005 E320 CDI . . 113,000 miles My car
Santa Rosa population 176,762 (2022)
Total. . . . . . . . . . . . 627,762
"Oh lord won't you buy me a Mercedes Benz."
-- Janis Joplin, October 1, 1970

There was one year of non turbo estate cars.

-J

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Tesla Model 3. 205,000 miles. Been to 48 states!
Past: A fleet of VW TDIs.... including a V10,a Dieselgate Passat, and 2 ECOdiesels.
2014 Cadillac ELR
2013 Fiat 500E.

1979,was a non turbo US wagon,later on wagon got the turbo and sedan and coupes got in 1981.Local MB dealer in my area had a 1979 wagon for sale with 30k original miles,they wanted 16700$ for the car...however,their clients have 7 digits yearly incomes,so,they probably found a customer.

I looked up WikiPedia's word on W123s an it was a little confusing but I think it said ALL Wagons are turbo (USA). I think that's what it's saying. I don't know how reliable it is though.

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-E300d '99 350k
-Suburban '93 220k
-TDI Jetta '03 350k
Sold
-F250 '96 7.3
-Dodge Ram 12V
-E320 '95 200k
-E320 Wagon 1994 155k
-300d Turbo '87 187k miles
-E320 1994 200k
-300d Turbo '84 245k (sold to Dan62)
-300d Turbo '84 180k
-300sd '80 300k
-7.3 Powerstroke Diesel 15P Van 500k+ miles
-190d '89 Non Turbo 2.5 5cyl 240k (my first MB)
Tom's Imports of Columbia MO Ruined the IP in changing leaky delivery valve O-Rings - Refused to stand behind his work. Mid-MO MB drivers-AVOID Tom's.

USA wagon got turboed in 1981, while the sedan, and coupe both got turboed in 1982.
I've seen a bunch of US-spec wagons from 79 and 80 all were N/A

there were 2 300TD turbos made in 1979. In 1980 1,852 300TD turbos were made.

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1985 300TD Turbo Euro-wagon
1979 280CE 225,200 miles
1985 300D Turbo 264,000 miles
1976 240D 190,000 miles
1979 300TD 220,000

GONE but not forgotten
1976 300D 195,300 miles
1983 300D Turbo 175,000 miles

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Wow! That little ad said 30 MPG on the hwy. Anybody actually getting that?

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-E300d '99 350k
-Suburban '93 220k
-TDI Jetta '03 350k
Sold
-F250 '96 7.3
-Dodge Ram 12V
-E320 '95 200k
-E320 Wagon 1994 155k
-300d Turbo '87 187k miles
-E320 1994 200k
-300d Turbo '84 245k (sold to Dan62)
-300d Turbo '84 180k
-300sd '80 300k
-7.3 Powerstroke Diesel 15P Van 500k+ miles
-190d '89 Non Turbo 2.5 5cyl 240k (my first MB)
Tom's Imports of Columbia MO Ruined the IP in changing leaky delivery valve O-Rings - Refused to stand behind his work. Mid-MO MB drivers-AVOID Tom's.

A neighbor down the street has what appears to be a NA w123 wagon. I say appear because it clearly states "DIESEL" on the hatch. It's old and used up, repainted, basically a driving parts car...has us bumpers, no sunroof and the old skool non-split folding rear seat. Not 100% sure its a US model vs euro...but appears to be a US model.

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1982 240 D, 308,000 - 321,127 miles (sold)
1982 300 TD,166,500 - 226,000 miles
1998 E 320, 120,000 - 144,000 miles
2005 C 230 K, 26,000 - 77,000 miles (sold)

Anybody else counting the "T"s.......

I think any wagons from '80 with a turbo were badged as 1981. Look far and wide; 79 and '80 wagons will be non-turbo, 81-85 will have the turbo [yet only one "T"]

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Jimmy L.
'05 Acura TL 6MT
2001 ML430 My Spare

Gone:
'95 E300 188K "Batmobile" Texas Unfriendly Black
'85 300TD 235K "The Wagon" Texas Friendly White
'80 240D 154K "China" Scar engine installed
'81 300TD 240K "Smash"
'80 240D 230K "The Squash"
'81 240D 293K"Scar" Rear ended harder than Elton John

They built 3 in '86 ? I wonder where those three are today?

I agree that 79 and 80 models are NA and later years are turbo. The article is a little misleading as the engine is not identical to the SD engine since they cannot be interchanged due to the SLS pump in the head of the TD engine. John Lennon owned a 79 I believe
I have pencil plugs in my 79SD. Has anyone seen a W116 SD with loop plugs? Why did the wagon not get the pencil plugs until August 80?
What was happening between 81 and 85 causing the drops in production? Off the top of my head, I can't account for it.

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1977 300d 70k--sold 08
1985 300TD 185k+
1984 307d 126k--sold 8/03
1985 409d 65k--sold 06
1984 300SD 315k--daughter's car
1979 300SD 122k--sold 2/11
1999 Fuso FG Expedition Camper
1993 GMC Sierra 6.5 TD 4x4
1982 Bluebird Wanderlodge CAT 3208--Sold 2/13