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08-21-2009, 05:45 PM
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Question - Help...W123 USA vs. Euro Model
Hello - What, if any are the basic differences between a Euro model and a USA model W123 turbo diesel?
Many thanks...
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71Inka02 62 W121 190DB - Original CA/AZ Car - Excellent Example   99 E300 Turbo Diesel - 362,000...Awesome Daily Driver 01 E320 Wagon - 297,xxx (wife's work car) 01 E320 Wagon - 131,000 02 Land Rover Disco SE- 110,000 87 BMW 325is (E30) Full Restore - Son's 06 Mini Cooper 'S' - Son's 87 Toyota FJ60 Land Cruiser - Showroom Condition - 152,000 84 300D - 142,xxx  :cool - "Sold"83 300D-"Sold" - 211,456   85 300SD-"Sold" - 213,789
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08-21-2009, 05:53 PM
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The only W123 Turbo Diesel available in Europe was the wagon.
So, if you're talking sedan, it is a non-turbo. Kind of like the US 77-81 sedans, but a slightly different injection pump. Cosmetically, bumpers, lights, interior trim, manual a/c vs. ACCIII. Manual windows, sunroof on some, etc.
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08-21-2009, 06:20 PM
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240D
Basically a 240D with a 617 engine and skinny bumpers.
Jay.
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08-21-2009, 06:36 PM
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I can't speak for the turbodiesel, because this was not a popular Euro model. I have experience with Euro vs. US 240D's and I can tell you some of the differences with them:
Euro cars have: no crash bracing in doors shorter bumpers with no shock absorbing mounts euro lights usually have lower level trim with MBTex or cloth interior. Sometimes no wood trim no oil cooler Bosch instead of American Bosch IP usually manual windows and sunroof, but sometimes elect. front windows with manual rear windows usually no a/c - the ones I've had were aftermarket a/c installed in the US trunk triangle different wiring for fog lights. They will work with headlights on vacuum operated headlight leveler single side park lights Those are the things that come to me without thinking about it very much.
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08-21-2009, 06:52 PM
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Thanks - Good information.
So the basic engine and driveline are the 'ol faithfull' we are accustomed to, and have come to love? Are there any issues with getting parts for the Euro models? I was told the car is a turbo - so that will be the first thing I look for...
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71Inka02 62 W121 190DB - Original CA/AZ Car - Excellent Example 99 E300 Turbo Diesel - 362,000...Awesome Daily Driver 01 E320 Wagon - 297,xxx (wife's work car) 01 E320 Wagon - 131,000 02 Land Rover Disco SE- 110,000 87 BMW 325is (E30) Full Restore - Son's 06 Mini Cooper 'S' - Son's 87 Toyota FJ60 Land Cruiser - Showroom Condition - 152,000 84 300D - 142,xxx :cool - "Sold"83 300D-"Sold" - 211,456 85 300SD-"Sold" - 213,789
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08-21-2009, 07:00 PM
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There are various small differences, and those different parts can be hard to find. The lights are all different for one, although putting in american lights is easy. If it's a nonturbo engine then you have to use nonturbo parts. The transmission might be different, and you'd have to figure out which american model came with the same one. I'd be trying figure out whether it's a euro with an american engine or an american car with euro parts.
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08-21-2009, 07:14 PM
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The easiest way to see if it is a Euro or US model is to open the hood and look for the vin tag which is where you will find it on a Euro model. If it has the vin tag on the inside of the drivers side windshield pillar, it's a US model.
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