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interested in converting 300cdt from automatic to manual
I'm wishing my 1982 300cd was a manual...faster pickup, more control. Can this be done? Pluses, minuses anyone?
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1982 300cd 245K miles and still goin'... Last edited by katchung; 10-03-2009 at 09:34 PM. Reason: Shamed by the batman JimmyL |
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I'm wishing you'd go take a look at that trunk badge......
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Jimmy L. '05 Acura TL 6MT 2001 ML430 My Spare Gone: '95 E300 188K "Batmobile" Texas Unfriendly Black '85 300TD 235K "The Wagon" Texas Friendly White '80 240D 154K "China" Scar engine installed '81 300TD 240K "Smash" '80 240D 230K "The Squash" '81 240D 293K"Scar" Rear ended harder than Elton John |
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plusses are that you will lose about 100 pounds in weight, minuses are that you have to spend a good 8-10 hours removing your old tranny, and installing a new one with shifter, master/slave cylinders, pedal cluster, and new speedo cable and other stuff related to this swap, and spend some good money on it, too. more plusses are you never have to worry about tranny oil again, or about vacuum modulators and all that crap
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guys, it's becoming apparent how batman got his 8k+ posts. it's with brilliant observations like the ones above.
hey, jimmy, what's the badge on the batmobile say? |
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Well put
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if it bothers you so much add Jimmy to your ignore list. my guess is you will miss the information he provides. to the OP, yes it is a lot of work to swap, but I really enjoy my coupe with the 4 speed, if you are really motivated, swap in a 2.47 rear, that has been as good or better change as the 4spd
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1982 300CD Turbo (Otis, "ups & downs") parts for sale 2003 TJ with Hemi (to go anywhere, quickly) sold 2001 Excursion Powerstroke (to go dependably) 1970 Mustang 428SCJ (to go fast) 1962 Corvette LS1 (to go in style) 2001 Schwinn Grape Krate 10spd (if all else fails) |
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Last time I checked, manual transmissions still had fluid that needed replacing at regular intervals.
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yeah, you're right, they do have fluid, but you only have to worry about replacing it when you do a clutch kit. let's just say, if your manual trans feels good shifting into gear, you don't have to worry about checking fluid levels or anything fluid-related, so that's a plus
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nah, i'm just instigatin'
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Jimmy,
I'm not looking to race, just to get on the highway with a little more power and better fuel economy. I've read enough to know that they made the 300cdt in Germany with manual transmissions. What's your point anyway Batman? |
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What is wrong with a little tonge and cheek humor? don`t get your knockers in a knot . Charlie
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there were three HP ratings on the OM616... 1) Not much power 2) Even less power 3) Not nearly enough power!! 240D w/auto Anyone that thinks a 240D is slow drives too fast. 80 240D Naturally Exasperated, 4-Spd 388k DD 150mph spedo 3:58 Diff We are advised to NOT judge ALL Muslims by the actions of a few lunatics, but we are encouraged to judge ALL gun owners by the actions of a few lunatics. Funny how that works |
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The Trunk Badge of Truth
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Back on topic. So, lutzTD, does the 300cd have a slightly shorter wheelbase, for reference when modding the various parts? |
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When I did mine last April, I pulled the engine and trans as one unit. or as others have done, drop the auto and install the manual trans.
I prefere the first way. Get all your parts together, a donor car works, but I got all mine from the JY off a 84 240D. put my list together as to what I needed, and it all went together w/o too many problems. Pilot bearing flywheel flywheel bolts clutch disc pressure plate throwout bearing slave cylinder master cylinder peddle assembly rubber hose to supply MC fluid from the brake reserve for the hydraulic system two metal clutch lines. one from MC and through floor under accelerator peddle. second from slave clylinder, over trans., and connects to first line. shifter assembly and shift rods. front section of 240D driveline 240D metal X mount off a 240D with automatic trans. think that is it. pretty much plug and play except for having the driveline cut and balanced and having the flywheel matched balanced to the automatic FW. will have to shorten the shift rods, bend and thread them to fit. You will also get rid of a lot of vacuum lines. the accelerator peddle is a lot smoother now also. You have the 3:07 Diff and I have the 2:88. you will have a little better acceleration. I have no complaints with ours. and I have picked up 2 1/2 to 3 mpg. 9-14-09 coming back from Cottage Grove, Oregon the Lathrope,Ca. I got 31.94mpg. Charlie
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there were three HP ratings on the OM616... 1) Not much power 2) Even less power 3) Not nearly enough power!! 240D w/auto Anyone that thinks a 240D is slow drives too fast. 80 240D Naturally Exasperated, 4-Spd 388k DD 150mph spedo 3:58 Diff We are advised to NOT judge ALL Muslims by the actions of a few lunatics, but we are encouraged to judge ALL gun owners by the actions of a few lunatics. Funny how that works |
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