and MB diesel cars don't? Same engine. Same fuel.

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Ben
1987 190d 2.5Turbo

Nope not any more with the USLD fuel,all the new trucks have to run on this fuel,maybe trains and ships.

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How can we set back and say that the,CEOs of these big Co,make MILLIONS and MILLIONS is ok,and the working man gets the shaft. And Yes Iam far right wing.

I've seen trucks still belching smoke.
It must be that their max fuel flow rate is less restricted.
Similar to what our turbo cars could do if the IP rack limiter and alda were removed.

Most of these trucks also have manual transmissions, which means they can have very high fuel flow and high revs at the same time, which most of us don't do with automatics. The older trucks also have near no emissions controls, which means more particulate exhaust.

Our cars CAN belch heavy black smoke if they're not tuned well, or if someone unrestricts the fuel flow by the steps above. Why you'd want to, outside of a modest performance increase, I don't know. Black smoke=wasted fuel.

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They don't if they haven't been modified. The black smoke is simple overfueling, regardless of how much sulfur is in the fuel, no difference there, and some shops will defeat the emissions and other systems to overfuel the engine in an attempt to produce more peak power.

Some truckers also like noise and smoke, thus the 8" straightpipes and overfueling just for effect.

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Gone to the dark side

- Jeff

All Diesels can smoke for a variety of reasons:

Puff of smoke on acceleration - Turbo has not had time to build boost or ALDA or "initial smoke" out of adjustment. On electronically controlled engines, fueling curve is too rich for a given boost level.

Trails smoke continuously under a light or moderate load - Possible failing turbo or leaking induction system, hose intercooler, etc... Also can be poor fuel atomization.

Thick black smoke under heavy load - Over fueling for a given level of boost, possible failure in the induction system, possible turbo failure, poor fuel atomization. Can also be a result of purposefull activity such as a "performance" pump setup or fuel map in electronically controlled engines.

Smoke can also come from lugging an engine at too low an RPM where the engine is getting a lot of fuel but it can't get enough air due to high loads and low RPM's.

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-Evan


Benz Fleet:
1968 UNIMOG 404.114
1998 E300
2008 E63


Non-Benz Fleet:
1992 Aerostar
1993 MR2
2000 F250

If you want smoke, come by sometime in cold weather and I'll start my CAT 3208. It's not black, but I guarantee you'll be hard pressed to find another motor that puts out more smoke. Lasts until it warms up.

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1977 300d 70k--sold 08
1985 300TD 185k+
1984 307d 126k--sold 8/03
1985 409d 65k--sold 06
1984 300SD 315k--daughter's car
1979 300SD 122k--sold 2/11
1999 Fuso FG Expedition Camper
1993 GMC Sierra 6.5 TD 4x4
1982 Bluebird Wanderlodge CAT 3208--Sold 2/13

That's why it came with a block heater Kerry!

I'm not sure which smokes more, a 3208 or a 2-stroke DD. The answer is easy when it gets below about 20F though, since the Detroit won't start!

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Gone to the dark side

- Jeff

I've seen the Ford POS, Dodge Cummins, and GM all belch smoke when accelerated heavily.

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RRGrassi


70's Southern Pacific #5608 Fairmont A-4 MOW car

13 VW JSW 2.0 TDI 193K, Tuned with DPF and EGR Delete.

99 W210 E300 Turbo Diesel, chipped, DPF/Converter Delete. Still needs EGR Delete, 232K

90 Dodge D250 5.9 Cummins/5 speed. 400K

Gone and still missed...1982 w123 300D, 1991 w124 300D

It's a goofy setup. A block heater powered by a diesel generator which itself has no block heater. If it gets really cold I'll be carrying my Honda 2000 generator.

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1977 300d 70k--sold 08
1985 300TD 185k+
1984 307d 126k--sold 8/03
1985 409d 65k--sold 06
1984 300SD 315k--daughter's car
1979 300SD 122k--sold 2/11
1999 Fuso FG Expedition Camper
1993 GMC Sierra 6.5 TD 4x4
1982 Bluebird Wanderlodge CAT 3208--Sold 2/13

True, one of the best winter-use mods is a diesel-fired hydronic heater tied into the coach systems and both engines.

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Gone to the dark side

- Jeff

You should get a block heater for that diesel generator.

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'98 E300 turbodiesel

I think a lot of the trucks that put out the soot just need an air filter cleaning. Especially if they smoke while cruising as opposed to just accelerating.

All vehicles with diesel engines sold in USA are REQUIRED to be fitted with a diesel particulate filter beginning model year 2007. ULSD is the concurrent requirement to provide protection to these filters. My GL320CDI produces no smoke and at 21K miles there is zero soot on the chrome exhaust extensions.

Black smoke is of course visible particulates, and there shouldn't be any emanating from MY 2007 and newer diesels, even the big trucks.

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Kent Christensen
Albuquerque
'07 GL320CDI, '10 CL550. '01 Porsche Boxster
Two BMW motorcycles

VNT's solve this problem better than filtration setups...

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1995 E420 Schwarz
1995 E300 Weiss
#1987 300D Sturmmachine
#1991 300D Nearly Perfect
#1994 E320 Cabriolet
#1995 E320 Touring
#1985 300D Sedan
OBK #42

At least not until you "fix" them

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Whoever said there's nothing more expensive than a cheap Mercedes never had a cheap Jaguar.

83 300D Turbo with manual conversion, early W126 vented front rotors and H4 headlights 401,xxx miles
08 Suzuki GSX-R600 M4 Slip-on 26,xxx miles
88 Jaguar XJS V12 94,xxx miles. Work in progress.
99 Mazda Miata 183,xxx miles.