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Old 10-04-2009, 02:37 AM
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My return line durring my purge was mearely amber, with a few particles of soot here and there. It still made a big difference in how my car ran. I ran 2 cans through, then changed my oil to synthetic.

In the olden days I used injector cleaners, cetane improvers, etc. Engine ran better with them too, but my aging injectors soon returned to normal after a few tanks with no additives.

Had I had resources like this website, Diesel Giant, etc. I doubt I would have ever sold my 83 300SD. My cousin kept his 81 till one of his sons wrecked it in 2004. But he was much wealthier than I, so never flinched at maintenance costs. Because my engine no longer sounded as smooth as it had, I worried about a major repair breaking the bank.

Anyways, after using Lubri-molly purge, I'm a believer. When my mom followed me down to put the car in storage for the winter, about a week ago, she complained that my 240D was too fast! With no visible exhaust. I performed the purge in May and my engine still runs very smooth.
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Old 10-04-2009, 04:15 PM
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Cleaning injectors

I scored a HF stainless steel ultrasonic cleaner $30? shipped -used Ebay

Bosch factory injector cleaner kit $20 shipped - new Ebay

this kit comes with brass brushes, brass angle cleaners?, drill bits + more

I disassemble 1 at a time, come out 99% clean.

PO had a rec for $250 inj cleaning 3 years before.

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Old 10-04-2009, 04:44 PM
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My return line durring my purge was mearely amber, with a few particles of soot here and there. It still made a big difference in how my car ran. I ran 2 cans through, then changed my oil to synthetic.

In the olden days I used injector cleaners, cetane improvers, etc. Engine ran better with them too, but my aging injectors soon returned to normal after a few tanks with no additives.

Had I had resources like this website, Diesel Giant, etc. I doubt I would have ever sold my 83 300SD. My cousin kept his 81 till one of his sons wrecked it in 2004. But he was much wealthier than I, so never flinched at maintenance costs. Because my engine no longer sounded as smooth as it had, I worried about a major repair breaking the bank.

Anyways, after using Lubri-molly purge, I'm a believer. When my mom followed me down to put the car in storage for the winter, about a week ago, she complained that my 240D was too fast! With no visible exhaust. I performed the purge in May and my engine still runs very smooth.
If you are using the stock Bosch Injector Spary Nozzles a regular Purging should help to keep the Central Hole drilled in the pintel cleaned out.

(In the service Manual they show taking apart the Injector and picking out the holes with properly sized Music Wire.)

On the Injectors in my Car and most of the ones I pulled from the Junk Yard the holes #14 and #15 in the Spray Nozzles were entirely plugged up.
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Old 10-04-2009, 07:27 PM
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I've probably driven my 30 benzes mostly high mileage diesels a million miles and have not yet felt the urge to try diesel purge. I have on occasion replaced a bad injector or had a set rebuilt when rebuilding a motor.

My guess is that its probably not all that effective, but I suppose it probably can't hurt much.
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Old 10-04-2009, 08:34 PM
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I've probably driven my 30 benzes mostly high mileage diesels a million miles and have not yet felt the urge to try diesel purge.
It's interesting that you haven't had the urge to try Diesel Purge, but you do feel the urge to share your (apparently baseless) perceptions of its ineffectiveness.
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Old 10-04-2009, 10:41 AM
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Yeah it's gotta be, just that manner of posting makes me think it is. Now that he's back, though, I see how much I missed him and his rowdiness.

Anyway, I'm going to do the diesel purge today and report back. We'll see what difference it makes, but I do think I might need new injectors anyway because I have a little bit of nailing that doesn't go away even after warm up. Should I have them rebuilt or just cleaned?
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Old 10-04-2009, 10:53 AM
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I have a little bit of nailing that doesn't go away even after warm up. Should I have them rebuilt or just cleaned?
If they have 100k miles or more on them, they are due for a rebuild.
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Old 10-04-2009, 11:55 AM
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PO's records go back 60,000 miles without injector rebuilds, so I might be due for new ones. Should I get new nozzles, or get mine cleaned and just replace the innards?
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Old 10-04-2009, 07:40 PM
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Well, it didn't noticably affect performance, but seems like it may have reduced the nailing. I didn't see any smoke or anything while purging, and it came back amber.
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Old 10-04-2009, 10:41 PM
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The LM Diesel Purge is hardly "Junk". It will improve the system in certain conditions. It won't magically repair bad injectors but it is helpful in conditions where the injectors are just starting to have problem. In this case my experience is that this product does delay having to remove and refurbish/or bench clean the injectors.

In the long run you'll probably have better dependability by removing the injectors and doing proper maintenance but if money or time is tight IMO you can delay this maintanance by doing a proper Diesel Purge procedure.
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Old 10-05-2009, 10:47 AM
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I see LMN quoted here several times, dont`t see any of his postings

I have used Diesel Purge in the past, don`t remember the results.
I have one can left on the shelf, I was thinking of running it through the engine.

I have almost 25,000 miles on the new engine and injectors, and had thoughts of running a can through every 25,000 miles just to stay on top of things.

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Old 10-06-2009, 07:08 PM
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Well, diesel purged, 90-95% less nailing, easier starts. Can't say for smoother idle, and no effect on performance.
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