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#16 11-26-2009, 05:56 PM

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Originally Posted by TylerH860

I wouldn't recommend it after the 3 years of constant repairs I went through on my 4.4i. I owned it from 2005-2008 (24k-75k) and it was the most expensive car to keep going I've ever had. Of course, it behaved fairly well up until the warranty went off at 50k, then over 5 grand in unscheduled repairs over the next two years and 25k miles.

For the same money you can get a loaded to the gills late model Denali or Suburban, and not have to worry about anything other than oil changes and fuel.

I was afraid of that. I don't buy domestic cars anymore. I'm not sure what I'll end up getting. I keep looking around for a decent 80s vintage G-wagon, not too many goods ones around.

JHZR2 · #17 11-26-2009, 06:11 PM

My issue with the BMW diesels is the forced urea service.

Maybe Im wrong, but my understanding is that the urea needs replacement every 15k, and you HAVE to go to the dealer to refill.

If that is the case, it means you are tethered to $100+ service for much of nothing.

They sell urea at truckstops now...

If you are empty on urea in a BMW diesel (at least here in the US), you get 5-10 starts, then the car will not run.

#18 11-26-2009, 06:13 PM

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Originally Posted by JHZR2

My issue with the BMW diesels is the forced urea service.

Maybe Im wrong, but my understanding is that the urea needs replacement every 15k, and you HAVE to go to the dealer to refill.

If that is the case, it means you are tethered to $100+ service for much of nothing.

They sell urea at truckstops now...

If you are empty on urea in a BMW diesel (at least here in the US), you get 5-10 starts, then the car will not run.

I believe the new benz diesels work the same.

JHZR2 · #19 11-26-2009, 06:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Craig

I was afraid of that. I don't buy domestic cars anymore. I'm not sure what I'll end up getting. I keep looking around for a decent 80s vintage G-wagon, not too many goods ones around.

Why???

Domestic cars are every bit as reliable as foreign, and it is extremely common to se problems with the imports - honda has horrid AT quality, toyota has had all sorts of recalls.

New domestics like the malibu and fusion are really top notch. Cars like the CTS get great marks too. That CTS-V or whatever it is called, though Im not sure on reliability, is an awesome car.

You know you cannot trust the reliability claims when the toyota matrix is rated differently than the pontiac vibe.

okyoureabeast · #20 11-26-2009, 06:19 PM

I heard the "sensor" in a lot of urea tanks is just a float sensor.

I see nothing wrong soldering the float sensor to the top

#21 11-26-2009, 06:29 PM

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Originally Posted by JHZR2

Why???

Domestic cars are every bit as reliable as foreign, and it is extremely common to se problems with the imports - honda has horrid AT quality, toyota has had all sorts of recalls.

New domestics like the malibu and fusion are really top notch. Cars like the CTS get great marks too. That CTS-V or whatever it is called, though Im not sure on reliability, is an awesome car.

You know you cannot trust the reliability claims when the toyota matrix is rated differently than the pontiac vibe.

I just don't like them, I also don't buy ricers; neither have any character.

TylerH860 · #22 11-26-2009, 06:51 PM

The only ricers I would drive are Subarus. The L.L. Bean editions are very nice on the inside.

A 210 E320 4-matic wagon would be just as capable as most sport utes, and have a much better reputation than the ML.

#23 11-26-2009, 06:56 PM

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Originally Posted by TylerH860

A 210 E320 4-matic wagon would be just as capable as most sport utes, and have a much better reputation than the ML.

I've thought about shopping for one of them too, I might buy a ML if I found a good enough deal.

jnc19610 · #24 11-26-2009, 07:01 PM

my favorite "toyota" expression of all time is..... ( a quote from Ferarri in a conversation with Henry Ford)

"If you can't tell the difference between a Bugatti and a Toyota.... by all means, drive the Toyota"

In my mind... you can't say it better than that.

If you want to get from point A to point B, there are cars.
If you want to get there with some feelings.... there are 'rides'.
I would take a 'ride' over a plain old car... everyday.

(if you don't care... then go ahead.. drive whatever.

For me... I perfer the Teutonic feeling....I've owned VW's, an Audi, Porsche's, an Opel (ok... a cadillac catera), German Ford's (merkur), and a W210 E300
I can't fathom owning a Asian car.

scottmcphee · #25 11-26-2009, 07:15 PM

The fuel economy of the new 535d is surprisingly slurpish, for a diesel.

#26 11-26-2009, 07:18 PM

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Originally Posted by scottmcphee

The fuel economy of the new 535d is surprisingly slurpish, for a diesel.

What kind of numbers?

JHZR2 · #27 11-26-2009, 07:20 PM

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Originally Posted by okyoureabeast

I heard the "sensor" in a lot of urea tanks is just a float sensor.

I see nothing wrong soldering the float sensor to the top

When I see the workaround like you suggest, or the manual equipment to do the job, Ill be into them.

Yours is a good point!

Hatterasguy · #28 11-26-2009, 09:21 PM

Problem with BMW diesels is that they are to expensive. A diesel 3 series is almost as much a diesel E class. Not quite the same but close enough that I would buy the E class. The diesel option is like $8k!

Screw that you can buy a lot of gas for $8k!

They need to price the 5 series diesel in the low $50k range like the E. Lets see if they do.

elchivito · #29 11-26-2009, 10:19 PM

The 240d is my first Mercedes,and first diesel car, but not my first German. I've owned lots of VW's and an Audi. I've also owned French, English and Italian and oh yeah even a Saab once for a very short and expensive time. I've also owned japanese cars and currently have an O4 Honda Element AWD. I think there are pluses and minuses about all makes, and in my own experience certain generalizations come to the forefront. First, unless you're buying a very high end ricer, like a Lexus or Acura, European cars are more fun to drive. You're actually driving, not just steering an appliance. Second, European cars, even new ones, are much more prone to issues involving interior fit, finish and function and pesky electrical issues that are costly and or time consuming to troubleshoot and cure. My experience with Toyota trucks and Honda cars has been one of 100 percent reliability, long lasting interiors, everything just works. I've owned 4 hondas all with automatics that were as bulletproof as anyone could ask for. We live on a ranch in the country and drive many miles to get anywhere. Our roads are bad. If I only wanted a car that I new would start every time and get me where I want to go without drama, it would be a Honda every time, hands down. I bought the Mercedes because I've always wanted one, because it's esthetic appeals to me and because I knew it would be a joy to drive if I could find the right one. I'd also give my left nut for an old Morgan, but that's just a pipe dream. I drive an old 83 Ford pickup here on the ranch. It has 200k miles on it's 351C motor and it's AT and shows no sign of giving up. I've had Toyota trucks and loved them, but if I need to haul 15 bales of hay in the back, even a full sized Toy ain't gonna cut it. I'd love to have another GMC, but this old Ford just won't die. I guess I like them all, just for different reasons.
BTW, the original Toyota trucks imported here were all called Hilux IIRC. I had one. It's an old name. I'd love to have a diesel, mine was a gasser.

i-osprey · #30 11-27-2009, 02:49 AM

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Originally Posted by TylerH860

I wouldn't recommend it after the 3 years of constant repairs I went through on my 4.4i. I owned it from 2005-2008 (24k-75k) and it was the most expensive car to keep going I've ever had. Of course, it behaved fairly well up until the warranty went off at 50k, then over 5 grand in unscheduled repairs over the next two years and 25k miles.

For the same money you can get a loaded to the gills late model Denali or Suburban, and not have to worry about anything other than oil changes and fuel.

and transmissions......