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124 seat in a 123?
I have a lovely pair of 124 leather seats in my stock of stuff. My driver's seat in my 123 dd is getting a bit shaggy. I am thinking swapping in the 124 seat would rule!
Anybody done it? I'm thinking a little panel mounted on the seat with a series of two way toggles would take care of the controls.
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I don't know what all would be involved in the swap, but W124 seats are sooo much better!!!!
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Are the w123 seats really so bad? I thought mine were pretty comfy. Or, are the w124 seats that much better?
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![]() One of my cheeks is slightly irregular than the other from a nasty spring poking me on my daily commute. I'm actually looking to invest in one of the more conservatively-styled Recaro models, color matched to the Palomino door panels. That's after some manage to stop working on the mechanical issues for a while...
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Guys......As I recall, a seat bottom can be changed out. And no, w124 seats will not exchange into w123 ---- With modification, I guess anything is possible.
I have some seats. Blue --- either pattern, early Palomino pattern......I need to keep some of these in reserve to see what the gold 300D needs......
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daw_two Germantown, TN Links: Sold last car --- 05/2012 1984 300D Light Ivory, Red interior No longer selling Cluster Needles Paint No longer selling New Old Stock (NOS) parts Past: 3/2008 1986 300SDL "Coda" 04/2010 1965 190D(c) "Ben" & many more |
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260E.
The manual seats I transplanted from a W124 2.6l car into my (currently in pieces) '87 300D are great! They'd be the ideal candidates for use in 123 cars, as there is no electrical element to deal with....
Jay
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On the road, currently: '83 300D (German spec.) 168k mi. - - Wolfgang (tucked snugly away for the winter!) '87 300D 375k mi. - finally went over to "The Dark Side" '87 300TD 225k mi. Cannondale 66cm CAAD5 w/Campy/Jamis Aurora Hujsak Custom Fixie/Landshark Track Shark Custom/Ahearne Custom 29'er |
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1987 300D, arctic white/palomino--314,000 miles 1978 240D 4-speed, Euro Delivery, light ivory/bamboo--370,000 miles 2005 Jeep Liberty CRD Limited, light khaki/slate--140,000 miles 2018 Chevy Cruze diesel, 6-speed manual, satin steel metallic/kalahari--19,000 miles 1982 Peugeot 505 diesel, 4-speed manual, blue/blue, 130,000 miles 1995 S320, black/parchment--34,000 miles (Dad's car) |
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How tough was that?
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[SIGPIC] Diesel loving autocrossing grandpa Architect. 08 Dodge 3/4 ton with Cummins & six speed; I have had about 35 benzes. I have a 39 Studebaker Coupe Express pickup in which I have had installed a 617 turbo and a five speed manual. ![]() ..I also have a 427 Cobra replica with an aluminum chassis. |
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Well....this would be putting a w124 seat into a w124, correct? I doubt the holes will match up --- the seat holes to the w123 frame NOR the w124 frame holes to the w123 body (mounting points).
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daw_two Germantown, TN Links: Sold last car --- 05/2012 1984 300D Light Ivory, Red interior No longer selling Cluster Needles Paint No longer selling New Old Stock (NOS) parts Past: 3/2008 1986 300SDL "Coda" 04/2010 1965 190D(c) "Ben" & many more |
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I was thinking the wiring and switches would be a more significant challange.
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[SIGPIC] Diesel loving autocrossing grandpa Architect. 08 Dodge 3/4 ton with Cummins & six speed; I have had about 35 benzes. I have a 39 Studebaker Coupe Express pickup in which I have had installed a 617 turbo and a five speed manual. ![]() ..I also have a 427 Cobra replica with an aluminum chassis. |
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Seat spring.
If the spring is the same, and I think it is, for both 123 and 124 cars, then just switch the seat tracks.
As for swapping the 260 seats to a 300 (both W124), there were no challenges whatsoever. The width is the same for both chassis (transverse dimension), not so sure about the length. Looked to me like the 124 rails were slightly shorter (longitudinally). Might be wrong, though. Jay
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On the road, currently: '83 300D (German spec.) 168k mi. - - Wolfgang (tucked snugly away for the winter!) '87 300D 375k mi. - finally went over to "The Dark Side" '87 300TD 225k mi. Cannondale 66cm CAAD5 w/Campy/Jamis Aurora Hujsak Custom Fixie/Landshark Track Shark Custom/Ahearne Custom 29'er |
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I've sat in some really tired W124s, and they don't develop the seat sag like the W123s.
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sounds promising.
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[SIGPIC] Diesel loving autocrossing grandpa Architect. 08 Dodge 3/4 ton with Cummins & six speed; I have had about 35 benzes. I have a 39 Studebaker Coupe Express pickup in which I have had installed a 617 turbo and a five speed manual. ![]() ..I also have a 427 Cobra replica with an aluminum chassis. |
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Maybe info here, if you're a benzworld member.
http://www.benzworld.org/forums/w123-e-ce-d-cd-td/1233806-new-member-photos.html If not, and the width of the seats is close then it should be a simple drill-and-tap issue and you can re-use the manual mechanism from your 123. I had mine apart the other day to repair the spring and the seat box itself is a flat bottom with six holes in the rails. |
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Keepin' the seats.
When I sell the '87, I'm definitely going to hold on to the 2.6 seats!
The 124 side bolsters are better. I feel like I can throw the car around with much more confidence, as I'm "part of the car". W123 front seats are too flat. Jay
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On the road, currently: '83 300D (German spec.) 168k mi. - - Wolfgang (tucked snugly away for the winter!) '87 300D 375k mi. - finally went over to "The Dark Side" '87 300TD 225k mi. Cannondale 66cm CAAD5 w/Campy/Jamis Aurora Hujsak Custom Fixie/Landshark Track Shark Custom/Ahearne Custom 29'er |
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