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First MB diesel with overdrive?

When did MB first put an overdrive behind a diesel? The 1996 E300d?

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... in the US. I'm aware of the 5-speeds with overdrive found overseas, even behind the om617.

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The US '96 E300 has a hydro-mechanical 4-speed with no overdrive.
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What about the 190D 2.2?
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automatics, the 1997 E300.
manual, the 1980 240, 300 and 280 models only in europe. in the us the 84 190d 2.2
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1997 was the first overdrive automatic diesel made for the USA market.

1984 was the 1st manual version, 190D 2.2
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Old 01-15-2010, 11:39 AM
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Hey, I was somewhat correct.
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So does the 2.2 share a bolt pattern with either the 5 or 6 cyl diesels? If not then the first "big" diesel in the US with overdrive is the 97 E300d/auto. Or at least that transmission with the 6cyl 3.0L engine. Is that transmission computer controlled? I think it was 2000 that they went to the advanced bus in the E-class with the up/down switches on the shifter for "manual shifting."

I'm just looking at options here.

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So does the 2.2 share a bolt pattern with either the 5 or 6 cyl diesels?
Yes, om60x and up. Not om61x though.
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Old 01-15-2010, 09:26 PM
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So I can get the om603 and 190e-2.6 (5-speed overdrive instead of the 5-speed non-overdrive from the 16V) and have a great setup. Tempting...

Now I just need to find both pieces...

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