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Old 10-21-2014, 12:43 AM
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They're about $100 for each of them...
When my glow plug relay went out a few months ago, the dealer wanted $270 for one! I ended up buying a used working unit from the PickNPull for $12.

If that didn't work, I'd probably get a new one either from Pelican or possibly Walt (He carries the newer Hella type ones that glow a lot longer).

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Old 01-19-2010, 09:38 AM
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Thanks. But that is a Bosch part, not Hella.
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Old 01-19-2010, 11:07 AM
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Thanks. But that is a Bosch part, not Hella.
My search was for my '84 300TD. On one Fastlane page, below the Bosch relay, was listed an optional Hella Preglow time-relay, Part# 1331607146, for $193.50
I'll let someone else figure out what's the difference.

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I'll let someone else figure out what's the difference.

Happy Motoring, Mark
That approach seems to be a bit inconsistent with your "Happy Motoring" philosophy. Anyone buying a Hella relay and thinking they are getting an afterglow unit isn't going to be happy. Neither is their wallet.
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There was no explanation on the page for the difference. Maybe the Bosch is made in Singapore, while the Hella is still made in Germany.
Maybe someone could call Phil for an explanation.
Meanwhile, as I mentioned, I already got spare glowplug relays at the Pick-N-Pull

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I thought only Bosch had an afterglow relay for the W123.
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Is Hella better than Bosch?

I've got Bosch units in both my SD's, they are probably original. Seem to be working flawlessly (the one needed the terminals cleaned)

I've no complaints.
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Sorry to bump an old thread, but I thought I'd post some photos of my fried Glow Plug Relay. Any ideas what would have caused this?







I've replaced all five plugs and will check the wiring harness to make sure my ground is good. Is there anything else I should check before dropping in a replacement relay?
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Man, there was some serious heat going on in there. strange the fuse wouldn`t have blown to protect it.

Possibly a component inside the relay failed, but not drawing enough current to blow the strip fuse.

You can pick up a used one from PNP for around $10 to see if it was the relay or something else causing the problem, before buying a new one. but I`ll put my money on something in the old relay causing the heat.

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that's what the relay will look like if it sticks on. the ampdraw is low enough to prevent fuse failure, but constant enough to build heat inside the relay and melt plastic, etc...
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Looks like poor contact of the fuse strip which results in local heating at the contact area which melted the plastic. If you have continuity in the coil and no shorts, cleaning the fuse contact and making sure the 2 fuse screws are tight it may work just fine
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Looks like poor contact of the fuse strip which results in local heating at the contact area which melted the plastic. If you have continuity in the coil and no shorts, cleaning the fuse contact and making sure the 2 fuse screws are tight it may work just fine
I'd agree. Just a little resistance could cause quite a lot of heat with the amount of current being drawn. Make sure the relay contacts are clean too. Use rolling papers to their best effect, then clean the relay contacts.
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I cannot get my preheating to work, no light at the dash, no heat either.

I remember that just before the preheating light stops working, a strange sound like of short circuit was heard sometimes from the inside the dash at the left close to the door.
It is possible the some other fuse or relay could be damaged than the glow plug relay instead and it is the one to blame instead of the glow plugs relay??

I any case, does anybody here know how to test a glow plug relay and cables to it with a multimeter?

That is ...

1) voltages in the female pins in cable coming from ignition when it is set on and when is set off?
2) voltages in the corresponding male pins in the relay when the cable is removed but the relay is connect to battery?
3) voltages at the relay male pins out for the glow plugs when the ignition is set on and when is set off?

BTW, when I test the continuity of current in the female pins cable from the glow plugs (negative attached to the negative battery) I get a lecture in my multimeter in all the pins between 1.5 and 1.8 (set at 200 ohms position on tester).
I read here
http://www.dieselgiant.com/glowplugrepair.htm
that these values must be below 1.
So from it, I conclude my glow plugs are bad but working yet, so these cannot be the issue with my problem.
That was why it always start with some difficulty at mornings, but not like now.

Ideas???


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Old 10-21-2014, 10:52 AM
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I cannot get my preheating to work, no light at the dash, no heat either.
Does the dash pre-glow light come on with the "light check" function when you first turn the key? This is when all the lights in the instrument panel are supposed to light up as a bulb check. If not, then your bulb is dead.

If there are 12 volts at both ends of the strip fuse at the pre-glow relay, then your relay is _probably_ getting power.

Remove the fuse. Hold it in your hands, flex it a little. If it crumble or breaks, or if a crack becomes evident, the fuse must be replaced. It is an 80 amp strip fuse, not easy to find locally except maybe an MB dealership. Check with FLAPS, some do carry them, they certainly can order them.

If your multimeter is not a good, accurate meter, it will have a hard time measuring a resistance of less than 1 ohm. I wouldn't be to worried about those values if you have a cheapo-meter that cost less than $50 or was made in china. The resistance test is best used to find dead shorts (zero ohms) or blown plugs (infinite resistance). Very unusual for all the glow plugs to fail at once, so if the readings are consistent, they are probably good.

Beyond that, you'll need a wiring diagram to chase down all the wires and what each should measure.
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