|
|
|
|
|
#1
09-05-2008, 12:59 PM
|
||||
|
||||
|
Everyone driving old MB's should buy rebuilt Calipers
I just took my 84's calipers apart for rebuild and man it's a wonder they still worked the seals were shot.
I ended up swapping my $28 rebuild kit (ATE from O'Reilly) for a new caliper at $48. The rebuild seemed like it'd be easy but they supplied me with the wrong kit. Anyways, the other brakes will follow soon. I'm sure they're all shot. But... bottom line... it's not safe to be driving with 20+ year old calipers. Seals wear out. It's not worth getting killed over $28 for a rebuild kit or $50 for new calipers. Fix or replace those old calipers!
__________________
-E300d '99 350k -Suburban '93 220k -TDI Jetta '03 350k Sold -F250 '96 7.3 -Dodge Ram 12V -E320 '95 200k -E320 Wagon 1994 155k -300d Turbo '87 187k miles -E320 1994 200k -300d Turbo '84 245k (sold to Dan62) -300d Turbo '84 180k -300sd '80 300k -7.3 Powerstroke Diesel 15P Van 500k+ miles -190d '89 Non Turbo 2.5 5cyl 240k (my first MB) Tom's Imports of Columbia MO Ruined the IP in changing leaky delivery valve O-Rings - Refused to stand behind his work. Mid-MO MB drivers-AVOID Tom's. 
|
|
#2
09-05-2008, 01:05 PM
|
|||
|
|||
|
Quote:
|
|
#3
09-05-2008, 01:17 PM
|
|||
|
|||
|
I concur. One of my rear calipers locked up on me and started smoking, not long after I bought it. Luckly I had just pulled in the driveway when it happened and got it cooled down quick. I replaced both rear ones and when I replaced them it was a wonder that they had ever worked with how they looked. The lines were dry rotted as well.
... and that price does seem really low for new ones. I think mine were about $68 each after the core trade-in.
|
|
#4
09-05-2008, 01:17 PM
|
||||
|
||||
|
Quote:
__________________
-E300d '99 350k -Suburban '93 220k -TDI Jetta '03 350k Sold -F250 '96 7.3 -Dodge Ram 12V -E320 '95 200k -E320 Wagon 1994 155k -300d Turbo '87 187k miles -E320 1994 200k -300d Turbo '84 245k (sold to Dan62) -300d Turbo '84 180k -300sd '80 300k -7.3 Powerstroke Diesel 15P Van 500k+ miles -190d '89 Non Turbo 2.5 5cyl 240k (my first MB) Tom's Imports of Columbia MO Ruined the IP in changing leaky delivery valve O-Rings - Refused to stand behind his work. Mid-MO MB drivers-AVOID Tom's.
|
|
#5
09-05-2008, 01:38 PM
|
||||
|
||||
|
I need new front discs and since the front calipers are original I'll order some rebuilds from Phil at the same time.
The seals get old and crack, but as long as the pads wear evenly and they don't pull they are good. Old cars are tough, lots of things need replacing.
__________________
1999 SL500 1969 280SE 2023 Ram 1500 2007 Tiara 3200
|
|
#6
09-05-2008, 01:45 PM
|
||||
|
||||
|
This topic is titled incorrectly.
Everyone with a W123 should upgrade to the W126 vented brakes. Everyone with 15" wheels should upgrade to the 2nd gen W126 brakes.
__________________
http://superturbodiesel.com/images/sig.04.10.jpg 1995 E420 Schwarz 1995 E300 Weiss #1987 300D Sturmmachine #1991 300D Nearly Perfect #1994 E320 Cabriolet #1995 E320 Touring #1985 300D Sedan OBK #42
|
|
#7
09-05-2008, 01:52 PM
|
||||
|
||||
|
I had one that was sticking, so I opted to replace both calipers in the front of Ol' Turbo for safety.
__________________
1985 500SL Euro w/ AMG bits 130k  1984 300SD Turbodiesel 192k  1980 240D Stick China 188k  2001 CLK55 AMG 101k  2007 S600 Biturbo 149k Overheated Project, IT'S ALIVE!!! 
|
|
#8
09-05-2008, 01:55 PM
|
||||
|
||||
|
Quote:
__________________
'81 MB 300SD, '82 MB 300D Turbo (sold/RIP), '04 Lincoln Town Car Ultimate Sooner or later every car falls apart, ours does it later! -German Narrator in a MB Promotion Film about the then brand new W123.
|
|
#9
09-05-2008, 02:22 PM
|
||||
|
||||
|
Just the front, and what a world of difference it is. The 1st gens are probably not much more different than the stock W123, just no warping and better mountain driving. The 2nd gens are larger rotors and and pistons. 15-25% better? All I know is it will be the first thing I do on any future W123s. The R107 has a 4 pot caliper as well that will fit. $$$.
__________________
http://superturbodiesel.com/images/sig.04.10.jpg 1995 E420 Schwarz 1995 E300 Weiss #1987 300D Sturmmachine #1991 300D Nearly Perfect #1994 E320 Cabriolet #1995 E320 Touring #1985 300D Sedan OBK #42
|
|
#10
09-05-2008, 07:40 PM
|
||||
|
||||
|
I replaced all 4 calipers (upgraded to 1st gen w126 fronts), all new hoses, pads and new master cylinder since mine was leaking.
__________________
Chad 2006 Nissan Pathfinder LE 1998 Acura 3.0 CL OBK#44 "Pleasure in the job puts perfection in the work." - Aristotle (384-322 B.C.) SOLD 1985 300TD - Red Dragon 1986 300SDL - Coda 1991 - 300TE 1995 - E320 1985 300CD - Gladys
|
|
#11
09-06-2008, 04:50 AM
|
||||
|
||||
Did mine last Fall.....
I replaced my brake hoses on the 300D, with stainless braided hoses from Goodridge, and overhauled all 4 calipers.
The hoses looked like they could use replacement, and when I disassembled the calipers I had a piston stuck on each of my rear brakes...... The car stops way better now.....  I would highly recommend to anyone with a W123 to at least overhaul the calipers, if you haven't done so already.......please note that all W123's do not have the same calipers, you need to ID them before ordering the proper rebuild kits...... SB
__________________
 Diesels: '85 300D, "Max, Blue Benz", 155K, 27.0 MPG '84 190D 2.2, "Eva, Brown Benz", 142K, 40.2 MPG '77 240D (parts car) '67 Eicher ES 202 Tractor "Otto" (2cyl, Air Cooled, 30HP) Gassers: '94 Ford F-150, "Henry", 170K (300 Six) 17.5 MPG '85 190E 2.3, 148K....Parts Car '58 Dodge W300M Powerwagon (Flat Fenders) Less than 10 MPG
|
|
#12
09-06-2008, 08:10 AM
|
|||
|
|||
|
First thing to do as soon as I find an affordable set of 15" bundts.
__________________
1982 300CD Petrol/Black Leather
|
|
#13
09-06-2008, 11:43 AM
|
||||
|
||||
|
Quote:
I have rebuilt calipers on the back of the '85 wagon from O'Reilly's and was very happy with the price, and continue to be very happy with the quality and operation. I will always get my rebuilt calipers from them from here on out, and there brake lines were reasonable too....
__________________
Jimmy L. '05 Acura TL 6MT  2001 ML430 My Spare Gone: '95 E300 188K "Batmobile" Texas Unfriendly Black '85 300TD 235K "The Wagon" Texas Friendly White '80 240D 154K "China" Scar engine installed'81 300TD 240K "Smash" '80 240D 230K "The Squash" '81 240D 293K"Scar" Rear ended harder than Elton John
|
|
#14
09-06-2008, 11:44 AM
|
||||
|
||||
|
Does this (rebuild or replace) philosophy also apply to W124 and other later-than-W123 cars? I suspect that my '87 has all-original brake hardware (other than the pads and perhaps rotors).
__________________
 "Buster" in the '95 Our all-Diesel family 1996 E300D (W210) . .338,000 miles Wife's car 2005 E320 CDI . . 113,000 miles My car Santa Rosa population 176,762 (2022) Total. . . . . . . . . . . . 627,762 "Oh lord won't you buy me a Mercedes Benz." -- Janis Joplin, October 1, 1970
|
|
#15
09-06-2008, 12:04 PM
|
||||
|
||||
|
Our $750 project 300SD just had all new rotors/pads/ATE calipers put on right before we got it.
__________________
-diesel is not just a fuel, its a way of life-  '15 GLK250 Bluetec 118k - mine - (OC-123,800) '17 Metris(VITO!) - 37k - wifes (OC-41k) '09 Sprinter 3500 Winnebago View - 62k (OC - 67k) '13 ML350 Bluetec - 95k - dad's (OC-98k) '01 SL500 - 103k(km) - dad's (OC-110,000km) '16 E400 4matic Sedan - 148k - Brothers (OC-155k)
|
 |
| Bookmarks |
| Thread Tools | |
| Display Modes | |
|
|
Linear Mode
