Good places to mail injection pump and injector for rebuilding - PeachParts Mercedes-Benz Forum

JB3 · #1 03-24-2010, 09:03 AM

I was looking through the MB shops thread, and while it has wonderful statewise info on repair shops, it was harder to find decent places that I could mail components to for rebuilding, like injection pump shops, and places that would rebuild and balance injectors.
I don't want to give my pump and injectors to a local place and simply have them do what I can do, which is mail it off to be redone and charge me for the service.

Anyone have any recommendations?

fruitcakesa · #2 03-24-2010, 09:55 AM

A couple of forum members rebuild injectors.

barry123400 · #3 03-24-2010, 10:26 AM

You might ask the shop managers at couple of mercedes dealers where they send theirs and the prices and quality. Unless their supply of exchange pumps is cheap to them from mercedes they might be able to recommend a place.

If you ask depending how they do business they might enable you to get their discount if they have one. Worth a try even if it does not work out for the time and effort involved. Let us know how you make out as quite a few members might require this eventually as these cars continue to age.

What is wrong with the pump now? Would a pick and pull pump get you by? You are probably looking at 1000.00 + otherwise. Although I am far from sure of this price.

WHunter, one moderator of our site just west of you in the Detroit area might suggest a good place or solution. He is a working mechanic on a lot of older diesel mercedes cars I imagine. I always tend to seek out people with certain charactaristics that indicate they are solid in what they do. He passes all those indications very well.

I feel he may have a good recomendation. You could drop him a personal message as well. I think I would if I were going to have a pump repaired and lived in your area of the USA. This way I know I would probably be satisfied with what I pay for.

dannym · #4 03-24-2010, 10:56 AM

Look for a certified Bosch dealer in your area for injector pumps and injectors.
Start here:
http://www.bosch.us/content/language1/html/rtc.htm

How to reach us
Robert Bosch LLC
Research and Technology Center
North America

4009 Miranda Avenue
Palo Alto, CA 94304
Telephone: +1 650-320-2900
Fax: +1 650-320-2999

Two NorthShore Center, Suite 320
P.O. Box 6762
Pittsburgh, PA 15212
Telephone: +1 412-323-6009
Fax: +1 412-323-9677
One Cambridge Center, Suite 404
Cambridge, MA 02142
Telephone: +1 617-252-0040
Fax: +1 617-252-0044

Danny

compress ignite · #5 03-24-2010, 12:15 PM

This is where YOU look up Bosch Diesel Service Stations:
http://www.boschservice.com/FindSvcCenter/Pages/FindingaServiceCenter.aspx#

1 Mondial Automotive, Inc.
114-14 14th Road
College Point, NY 11356
USA
Phone: 718-461-1103
Fax: 718-461-6344
Factory Trained For: A, P, P7, P8, VE, EDC, TICS, RED-III

Second Map Diagram:

1 Bay Diagnostic
1717 Gravesend Neck Road
Brooklyn, NY 11229
USA
Phone: 718-615-0705
Fax: 718-743-5248

2 Baychester Auto Repair & Diagnostic Center
2951-53 Edson Av
Bronx, NY 10469
USA
Phone: 718-379-0800
Fax: 718-379-5530
Factory Trained For: DM, DV

compress ignite · #6 03-24-2010, 12:29 PM

Howeveah, Me, I'd be sending everything to the third location (In NJ)
Mac Boring [trained in our sort of Pumps And Injectors] They are All
over the CONUS East Coast.

1
Mack Boring & Parts Co.
2365 Rt. 22 West
Union, NJ 07083
USA
Phone: 908-964-0700
Fax: 908-964-5032
Factory Trained For: A, MW, P, P7, VE
Seal #: 3130

jkubica · #7 03-24-2010, 01:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dropnosky

I was looking through the MB shops thread, and while it has wonderful statewise info on repair shops, it was harder to find decent places that I could mail components to for rebuilding, like injection pump shops, and places that would rebuild and balance injectors.
I don't want to give my pump and injectors to a local place and simply have them do what I can do, which is mail it off to be redone and charge me for the service.

Anyone have any recommendations?

Hi
These pumps rarely fail. Here in Houston they are available for under $100 at the local PnP junkyards on a regular basis. Rebuilding yours will be quite costly and may not be needed at all.

Most diesel injector shops can do the injectors. If you like, you can buy new nozzles online and have a local shop install & test. There is also a forum member C. Watts who rebuilds them and gets good marks from other members.
Good Luck,
Joseph

JB3 · #8 03-24-2010, 05:39 PM

not sure if there is anything wrong with the pump at all, Im just rebuilding the rest of the motor, and figured Id at least price it out since there is some possible internal corrosion. Definitely Im doing the injectors though.

At least the delivery valves of the pump need to come off and it really needs to be inspected inside as it was open to the weather for an unknown amount of time. I have two hanging around, so maybe ill just take it apart for fun

1000 bucks is pretty scary, on a couple 6.5s and pre powstrokes, the rebuild was like 150 bucks. Of course those were rotary type pumps, so could be a big difference. I will be making some calls just to get some quotes and post what im told.

latitude500 · #9 03-24-2010, 06:09 PM

I'm not sure about your injector pump, but I used C. Watts for my injectors and they turned out great. I wouldn't have a problem using him again.

whunter · #10 03-24-2010, 06:41 PM

Call or e-mail for a quote..

amosfella · #11 03-24-2010, 07:15 PM

Myna....

barry123400 · #12 03-24-2010, 09:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dropnosky

not sure if there is anything wrong with the pump at all, Im just rebuilding the rest of the motor, and figured Id at least price it out since there is some possible internal corrosion. Definitely Im doing the injectors though.

At least the delivery valves of the pump need to come off and it really needs to be inspected inside as it was open to the weather for an unknown amount of time. I have two hanging around, so maybe ill just take it apart for fun

1000 bucks is pretty scary, on a couple 6.5s and pre powstrokes, the rebuild was like 150 bucks. Of course those were rotary type pumps, so could be a big difference. I will be making some calls just to get some quotes and post what im told.

It is basically not a pump you can take apart and put back together at home. Or if a person did I think they would be really unhappy. There are adjustments for each of the five elements that would be disturbed in the process. The worse thing is problems if present cannot be found visually. Unless catostophic in nature.

These adjustments dictate the amount of fuel and the timing of the introduction compared to the other elements. Using clean fuel these injection pumps can have a very long original lifespan compared to any other type I can think of.

A true total rebuild would be redicuious in cost. Usually I believe they basically just recalabrate the adjustments and check for any irregularity.Perhaps replacing a few small items that age with time. Plus bearings etc if not good enough. Not replacing the elements bores and pistons usually. Well perhaps one or two if found to be abnormal.

If water has been sitting in the bores and rusted I would not take that pump in. Actually usually I am even fussier. I preffer to get a used injection pump off a car still full of fuel. I have some pumps around here primarily volkswagon sitting immersed in oil. Thats the only way I feel comforatable holding them long term. I would do exacly the same with mercedes injection pumps left in storage.

JB3 · #13 03-24-2010, 10:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by barry123400

It is basically not a pump you can take apart and put back together at home. Or if a person did I think they would be really unhappy. There are adjustments for each of the five elements that would be disturbed in the process. The worse thing is problems if present cannot be found visually. Unless catostophic in nature.

These adjustments dictate the amount of fuel and the timing of the introduction compared to the other elements. Using clean fuel these injection pumps can have a very long original lifespan compared to any other type I can think of.

A true total rebuild would be redicuious in cost. Usually I believe they basically just recalabrate the adjustments and check for any irregularity.Perhaps replacing a few small items that age with time. Plus bearings etc if not good enough. Not replacing the elements bores and pistons usually. Well perhaps one or two if found to be abnormal.

If water has been sitting in the bores and rusted I would not take that pump in. Actually usually I am even fussier. I preffer to get a used injection pump off a car still full of fuel. I have some pumps around here primarily volkswagon sitting immersed in oil. Thats the only way I feel comforatable holding them long term. I would do exacly the same with mercedes injection pumps left in storage.

Let me see if I understand this, you are saying that I can't rebuild this pump with a rubber mallet, a screw driver, and a fisher price tape measure?

I just don't know on this pump, it did have fuel in it, it was just sitting open without injector lines and there is some corrosion in the bezel area. A recalibration, cleaning, and resealing is probably all it needs, or, its totally junk and should become a new set of rotors.

whunter · #14 03-24-2010, 10:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dropnosky

Let me see if I understand this, you are saying that I can't rebuild this pump with a rubber mallet, a screw driver, and a fisher price tape measure?

I just don't know on this pump, it did have fuel in it, it was just sitting open without injector lines and there is some corrosion in the bezel area. A recalibration, cleaning, and resealing is probably all it needs, or, its totally junk and should become a new set of rotors.

Call or e-mail for a quote..

barry123400 · #15 03-25-2010, 10:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dropnosky

Let me see if I understand this, you are saying that I can't rebuild this pump with a rubber mallet, a screw driver, and a fisher price tape measure?

Well possibly if you wear your mickey mouse hat during the process.

I was just not sure if you realised how complex they are when mentioning tearing one down for self rebuild. Sorry.

Determining factors for me would be the estimated milage already on the pump and removing the delivery valves to see if any rust has formed up on the element bores. If not all it may need is the overall calibration checked basically.

On a totally rebuilt engine I have to agree it is nicer to have the calibration checked on an older pump. I wonder what a pump shop would charge just to deal with that basically? These pumps seem to seldom develop major problems unless abused. Remarkably well engineered item in my opinion. Simple in a way but not really at the same time.