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View Poll Results: Which front brake pads are the best?
Pagid 9 50.00%
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ATE (Teves) 4 22.22%
Textar 1 5.56%
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Old 12-09-2001, 07:58 PM
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What brake pads do you use up front?

I'm looking at the Fastlane online catalog trying to decide what front brake pads to buy for my 1983 300D. I wanted to ask everyone what their preference was and thought that the most efficient way to do it would be in a poll. Thanks for contributing!

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Old 12-09-2001, 08:26 PM
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I just use OEM Mercedes Brake pads

they work great, the only problem is they're really soft which leads to more brake dust.
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Old 12-09-2001, 08:46 PM
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I'm looking for the same answer so I can't vote. I hope it's agood poll
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Old 12-10-2001, 06:44 PM
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My .02

I guess it doesn't matter to me as long as they are the "organic" pads. The ones I picked up today were called DURA and are made in Canada. I realize these are softer and dustier, but let me qualify my reasoning.

1) I guarentee nobody here on this list does more stop and start driving than me. ( over 600 stops per day, just for work)

2) I do my maint. per the "deutch methode" something I picked up on the VW diesel site.(or was it vanagon?) It's been so long ago I forgot. According to the Germans the prefered pad ( cost effective wise ) is the organic (read NON-METALIC).

The reason is simple... if you use a semi-metalic pad two things are going to happen. You will get LESS dust and you will wear out your rotors faster. The comparison is this:

A) Metallic, semi-metallic pad= 3 brake changes then buy a new rotor because it will be beyond the limits. Don't forget to add in the cost of having the rotors turned, it will be neccessary.

B) Organic NON-metallic pads= 12 brake pad changes before you need new rotors. also , you will NOT need to have the rotors turned. ( unless you run them down to the point that you have metal on metal)

So it appears to me that the "lifetime" pads will wear down rotors at about 4 times as fast. As for me I'm too cheap to buy rotors any more frequently than I have to!

Sorry, I gave more than .02. You all can keep the change!
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Old 12-10-2001, 07:55 PM
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FP,
I've heard similar things about metallic and non-metallic pads. Are any of the five that I've listed organic as per your recommendations? Thanks!

Alex
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Old 12-10-2001, 08:01 PM
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I have heard from several techs that MB rotors should not be turned.....is that right?




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Old 12-10-2001, 09:14 PM
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I really like the ATE pads. They are soft.

How do I know they are soft? Let me count the ways I clean the wheels of dust.......



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Old 12-10-2001, 10:16 PM
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There you go!

Ken says ATE pads are good to go! As far as MB's and rotors, I really don't know what to say. My service records that I got with my 300TD-T shows several times when they were turned as part of a brake job. ( service done by MB dealer)

Maybe someone on the tech. board from this site may be able to give some insight? Personally I haven't turned a rotor since the days of Chevy V-8's ! Well, ok when I got my pickup it had bad rotors and I turned them one time to get them right again

What is scarey is that on the Rabbit even with the soft pads I can get 14 months on front pads! The Mercedes so far has made it 3 months, but the rear brakes aren't working quite like I think they should.

I have used a couple on the poll, but can't speak for all of them. The Jurids I liked. Tom
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Old 12-11-2001, 01:19 PM
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These are not on your list, but my choice is Repco brand, made in Canada and Australia by Bendix. I prefer Semi-metalic over organic because they last much longer, and work better when extremely hot. I have used this brand and type pad on the front only for the past 18 years on my 115 Turbodiesel, and have never replaced the rotors. They produce almost no dust, and are silent. My expierience with original equipment pads, is that they stop the car well, but are extremely short lived, and are very dirty. Rear pads are not as critical as the fronts because the fronts do approx 60 to 65 percent of the stopping due to forward momentum weight transfer and weight distribution on the chassis.
On the issue of turning brake rotors, the minimum thickness that the rotor can be safely turned to is usuall stamped on the hub of the rotor in thousands of an inch increments. This is also the minimum wear limits. However grooves worn into the rotor that are in a radial direction can be disregarded if they are no more than 1mm in depth, (about .040 inch). The outer lip that forms on the rim of the rotor due to the pad not spanning the full width of the rotor can be a source of noise, and soft pedal feel for the first several brake applications after pad replacement. This problem can be elliminated by filing the outer square edge of the replacement pad to conform to the rotor wear. Just knock of the edge of the pad with a file.
One last thing, don't forget to cover the brake master cylinder reservoir with an old shop towel before removing the old pads. Forcing the caliper pistons back into the calipers to facilitate replacment of pads forces brake fluid back in to the system, and can be forced out of the vent holes in the cylinder reservoir caps, or caps. This can be bad news if it lands on your painted fender.
For what its worth, this is my nickels worth.
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Old 12-12-2001, 08:20 AM
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I enjoyed fryerpowered's explanation of his reasoning for organic pads.

Someone, not too long ago, questioned my statement of the original rotors staying on my 240D past half million miles. I used to get organic pads quite inexpensively at a foreign auto parts house. Couple the organic pads with my high percentage of highway driving, and there's the answer.

The pads are cheap, fast and easy to replace. The rotors are not. Organic pads rule in my way of thinking.

Have a great day,
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Old 12-12-2001, 06:27 PM
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I had unbelivable brake noise with NAPA and KENECT pads . That was before I found this site and now use ATE pads they are quiet ,and for a big heavy car it stops strighter and quicker than any car I've owned other than a couple of Porsches.....
William Rogers......
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Old 12-13-2001, 12:19 AM
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Thanks everyone for replying. I'll try locating some completely organic pads and if I can't find those, I'll try out the ATE's. I suppose brake pads are so cheap that if I absolutely didn't like a set, I could just swap them out with new ones. Thanks again.

Alex

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