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toffuie 07-05-2010 06:50 PM

Problems with two window motors
 
I have a 300TD that I was changing interior bulbs on. I had lifted up the center console to replace the bulb for the shifter. When I put the console back my drivers window and back passenger window did not work. I checked the switches, checked the wires. The other two windows still work. I still could not get them to work. I then removed the switches and put in spares that I had. Still the two windows did not work. Did I ruin the motors :confused: Does anyone have any advise. I am not sure what to check at this point.
Mark

toddyvol 07-05-2010 07:36 PM

fuse

RAYMOND485 07-05-2010 07:39 PM

300 WINDOWS NOT WORKING
 
1984 300D 152K
CHECK THE FUSE IN THE FUSE BOX THE INFOR IS ON THE FUSE BOX COVER

toffuie 07-05-2010 08:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RAYMOND485 (Post 2499812)
1984 300D 152K
CHECK THE FUSE IN THE FUSE BOX THE INFOR IS ON THE FUSE BOX COVER

Thanks guys but the fuse is working. I replaced it for good measure but no luck there.

toddyvol 07-05-2010 08:39 PM

Are these windows both on the same side of the car?

bustedbenz 07-05-2010 09:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by toddyvol (Post 2499835)
Are these windows both on the same side of the car?

OP says "Drivers window and back passenger window" so I'd say not. Left front, Right rear. Perfect symptom of a fuse problem since they are fused diagonally but it's already been stated that the fuse is good :/

toffuie 07-05-2010 10:04 PM

Thanks, that is correct, left front and right rear. Ok so is there a relay. I may need to start checking the wires for a broken wire. It is good to know that they are wired diagonally. Thanks again for your help.

Quote:

Originally Posted by bustedbenz (Post 2499855)
OP says "Drivers window and back passenger window" so I'd say not. Left front, Right rear. Perfect symptom of a fuse problem since they are fused diagonally but it's already been stated that the fuse is good :/


69shovlhed 07-05-2010 10:08 PM

might need to clean the switches out.

Diesel911 07-06-2010 01:47 AM

After Fuses:
Burned Contacts in the Switches seems to be the most frequent cause of windows not working. (I scraped the oxidized/burned parts of the Contacts with a small knife and they now work fine.)

Followed by a problem with the Window Regulator.

Next broken wires where they flex at the Door.

An issue with the Motor

I have yet to read or hear of anyone replacing a Window Relay yet.

charmalu 07-06-2010 02:23 AM

Here is a DIY forthe window switches

http://www.peachparts.com/Wikka/SwitchRefurb

Charlie

neumann 07-06-2010 01:47 PM

excellent documentary on the switches

winmutt 07-06-2010 02:39 PM

Its most likely a fuse if both quit out at the same time. Measure resistance across the fuse or replace it. Switches would be one or both on same side, not diagonal.

babymog 07-06-2010 04:00 PM

Is this a 123 or 124? Year would help here.

If a 124, seems that the switches would be unaffected by the wood R&R as they don't lift with the wood, does the rear switch light up indicating it has power?

toffuie 07-08-2010 12:49 PM

1984 300TD
Update. I pulled the switches and cleaned them. Thanks for posting DIY link. It was very helpful and really not a bad job at all. Now for the bad news it did not make a difference. My left front and right rear windows still do not work. The other two work fine. Thanks again for all the suggestions.

This what I have done so far.
1. Checked switches (working) Cleaned Switches:D
2. Check voltage on all four switches. Each one is getting 12V
3. Checked for broken wires. None found
4. Checked resistance at fuse 0.0Ohms (hope I did that right)



I think the next step will be to remove a door panel and see if I an get the motor to run.


Quote:

Originally Posted by babymog (Post 2500248)
Is this a 123 or 124? Year would help here.

If a 124, seems that the switches would be unaffected by the wood R&R as they don't lift with the wood, does the rear switch light up indicating it has power?


winmutt 07-08-2010 01:03 PM

Get a multi meter and check the plugs at the switches. I am betting a busted ground.


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