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power loss uphill
I purchased a 1984 300D with 190,000 miles this month. Yesterday my father was driving the car in a hilly region and experienced serious slowdown from 50 mph to 20 mph going uphill with rpm going to 3000. When he stopped at a red light the car went dead. This happened twice it restarted after a few attempts.
This sounded like a fuel system problem ,from my limited knowledge my thought was to change both fuel filters. From the previous owners records this maintenance does need to be performed. My father initially thought the transmission might be to fault. It does shift hard. My questions is what is the problem? and what action should I take? |
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you are correct. change fuel filters (both)...
hard shifting is a vacuum problem - maybe leak, maybe adjustment
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Thanks Zeke. I am off to the parts store now. I will let you know how it goes.
The vacuum problem is next on my list. Thanks again for your help. |
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I second zeke. Fuel filters, and possibly a cleaning of the tank strainer if the problem persists.
The hard shifting is vac related. You might have leaks or if it's only slightly hard you might need to adjust the transmission modulator a touch. Troubleshoot vac leaks first.
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Make sure you fill the secondary filter with a burnable liquid (diesel, purge, transmission fluid, canola oil, etc) when reinstalling or you will have to purge out a ton of air.
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I towed the SD one time when it got slow & I didn't know about diesels & filters. 2 sets now stay in the trunk along with tools to change. It only takes a couple of minutes even if on the road side.
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It sounds like the car needs a good going over.
A couple of weekends. Filters are a must, check the strainer in the tank for black goo!! Valve adjustment is probably overdue. The trans probably needs a fluid & filter change. Change the coolant as well. You will probably discover a vac leak or 2 or bump a hose & cause another while you are doing all that, fix them. Then take a deep breath & see how it goes. Good Luck
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I changed both filters and it is running great again. I am going to do exactly as you say layback40. I will have the next couple of weekends free and will get all of the maintenance up to date.
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Along these lines I am looking for a DIY on fuel tank strainer replacemment.
I have an 85 300SD that sat for a while. I am about to change out all the filters even though it runs okay ( needs valve adjustment) If the filters are not cruded up (as some photos here have shown) should I even worry about the strainer ? Alan
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I don't think anyone mentioned (in addition to the above mantainance punch-list), a banjo bolt/ALDA cleaning.
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Fuel tank strainer aint nothing but a thing if you have a big enough socket. 36 mm?? , I forget the exact measurement. I ran the tank down, used my oil evac to get the rest out, and still caught maybe 1/2 gal in a drain pan under the tank.
Eyeball the rubber line and see if it needs replaced at the same time. This was a '95, so YMMV! |
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WINGAS, I just ordered all new Viton hoses and will install soon. This includes
a Viton gasket seal for the strainer and all rubber involved with the tank. I noticed you have a 67 Chevelle. I had one that I used to make some money on the street with as well as on the strips in MD/VA. I ran a .030 over 396/375 H.P. God I miss that car it was painted a Chevy 1962 (?) anniversary Gold with pearl in it and had a 6" snorkle scoop. Centerline wheels all around with ladder bars and damn that thing would hook up. I could pull the wheels up and jump a coke bottle without even trying too hard. Anyway that was back in the day ( 1976-1980) I had to sell it to pay for college and a friend bought it and promised to offer it back to me first crack when he sold it. Needless to say he did not contact me and he sold it. If I ever see him $53>/:****. Anyway keep and enjoy. Alan
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