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weird beard 08-02-2010 01:04 AM

Just think of the car collection you could aquire buying another Benz each time one of the others breaks down!

365 days in the year = 365 cars in the driveway

sixto 08-02-2010 01:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by whunter (Post 2516796)
IMO, the cost of injectors = the cost of another car.

True, but he's going to fix the car anyway and rebuilding injectors doesn't cost much less than buying ones ready to install.

I agree he's fishing for a reason to buy another car. He's just not as good as the rest of us yet :)

Sixto
87 300D

Skid Row Joe 08-02-2010 01:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 1977busman (Post 2516734)
Well now that my 92 300d needs rebuilt injectors, it will be out of commision for a while, which means i will be driving the 6.0 liter chevy truck that gets 12mpg. Now since i am only 16, and dont have a job yet this is going to kill my mercedes repair funding. So I am considering buying a "cheap" piece of transportation until then, and sell once I trust my car again. But of course it has to be a diesel car. My question is that what are the chances that buying lets say a $500 running and driving mercedes that i will not have to dump a bunch of money into it just to get it to get me from point a to point b. Here are a few options i have found:
http://dayton.craigslist.org/cto/1872875826.html
http://cincinnati.craigslist.org/cto/1875466827.html
Let me know what you think, or if i should just suck it up and drive the gas guzzler...
thanks
zach

I would go the parts cars route. Buy like models one at a time to cannibalize to keep your main MB diesel running. The only problem is finding your model cheap and close enough to drag home. That, and the space to store parts cars. At your age, I'd definitely go the parts cars route if I were you. Might as well learn these things inside and out if you like owning and driving them.

ashedd 08-02-2010 01:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by whunter (Post 2516796)
1985 Mercedes 300d turbo diesel - $500 (Indianapolis)
http://indianapolis.craigslist.org/cto/1871055142.html

This is right up the road from me. I could check it out for you.

whunter 08-02-2010 01:37 AM

Agree
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by sixto (Post 2516805)
True, but he's going to fix the car anyway and rebuilding injectors doesn't cost much less than buying ones ready to install.

I agree he's fishing for a reason to buy another car. He's just not as good as the rest of us yet :)

Sixto
87 300D

Two hours work + parts. :D

Fastlane: Diesel Inj. Nozzle
http://catalog.peachparts.com/item.wws?sku=W0133-1621234


Fastlane: Injector Heat Shield
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Injector + Heat shield + Nozzle, Prechamber + Collar and Nailing. LINK THREAD
http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/diesel-discussion/211750-injector-heat-shield-nozzle-prechamber-collar-nailing-link-thread.html




Diesel Humor
For those times when you need a little smile therapy.

Oil on da brain
http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/diesel-discussion/88570-oil-da-brain.html

Are you obsessed with MB diesels?
http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/diesel-discussion/88926-you-obsessed-mb-diesels.html#post583607

Muffler grease
http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/diesel-discussion/88588-muffler-grease.html#post581091

(Humor) Here's what you call a Real Diesel Man-Drinks Diesel...
http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/diesel-discussion/116453-humor-heres-what-you-call-real-diesel-man-drinks-diesel.html#post827573

Clean humor only, no hijacking please .
http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/off-topic-discussion/118736-clean-humor-only-no-hijacking-please-post1035455.html

On WVO now glove compartment won't close...
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Are nipples any good?
http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/diesel-discussion/88669-nipples-any-good.html#post581633

Be vewey vewey quiet, i'm hunting wabbits fwom my Mercedes
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Diesel aftershave!
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1977busman 08-02-2010 08:44 AM

ok, after reviewing some prices i have decided that new replacements may just be worth it. And yes truly ive been looking for a reason to buy another mb diesel...:D But i currently own 2 of the 10 cars in the shop and garage, and get lectured about having too much already. I gave up on the parts car idea, when i realized how few w124's there were with the 5cyl. My car I thought was cheap, and have yet to see anything close to it and a parts car for me would need to be very cheap. Also I am not as skilled at finding new ways to "need" another mb diesel, im only 16...:rolleyes:

1977busman 08-02-2010 10:39 AM

ok another quick question. IF i replace them with new do i need both the new injector and the tip?
http://catalog.peachparts.com/ShopByVehicle.epc?q=1992-Mercedes--Benz-300d-Diesel--Injection&yearid=1992%40%401992&makeid=63%40%40MERCEDES+BENZ%40%40X&modelid=6180%3AED%7C10000095%3AM BC%7C1501%40%40300D&catid=240706%40%40Diesel+Injection&subcatid=240708@@Diesel+Injector&mode=PA

http://catalog.peachparts.com/ShopByVehicle.epc?q=1992-Mercedes--Benz-300d-Diesel--Injection&yearid=1992%40%401992&makeid=63%40%40MERCEDES+BENZ%40%40X&modelid=6180%3AED%7C10000095%3AM BC%7C1501%40%40300D&catid=240706%40%40Diesel+Injection&subcatid=240709@@Diesel+Inj%2E+Nozzle&mode=PA

sixto 08-02-2010 01:19 PM

IIRC you need special equipment and knowledge to replace nozzles then balance the set so I'd stay with complete injectors. Are there Bosch shops that offer injectors on an exchange basis?

Back to the sideline, if you get a beater in the interim, you'll have another money draw (I said draw, not pit) contending for your limited funds. Maybe that's how you factor a month to get the 2.5 running.

Skid Row Joe makes a good point and you don't need another 2.5 to start with. You don't even need another Diesel. A same year 300E will have lots of parts you can use. A 190D 2.5 will also have a bunch of parts you can use. If you find a 190D 2.5 5-speed, you'll have what you need for a very desirable conversion if you like to row.

Sixto
87 300D

1977busman 08-02-2010 02:06 PM

so does peachparts offer complete injectors? If not where can I get them complete, columbus diesel is not returning my calls for rebuilds... and i actually found a 91 300d that "needs timing belt" for $488 but hes pretty far away. Also I am pushing the beater car off to the side for now...;)

sixto 08-02-2010 03:38 PM

Peachparts aka Fastlane to the forum has injectors. Check whunter's link above. And don't let his moderator title fool you. He's pretty radical :)

Grab that 91 300D! Think of it as a set of injectors with a parts car thrown in for free. The busted timing chain, it doesn't have a timing belt unless someone stuffed a Toyota engine in it, might mean a few bent valves but it's otherwise an ideal parts car.

Sixto
87 300D

junqueyardjim 08-02-2010 04:32 PM

Sure there are
 
The country is filled with cheap Mercedes. Any Benz selling for under $5000.00 is cheap by new car standards and many of these "cheapies" offer excellent transportation. But you have to be able to separate cheap from junk. Junk should go to the P & P, but because of lax or no enforcement of auto inspections, they live to see another day. Except for using it as a parts car, and it is wonderful to have a good parts car, a person shouldn't buy a junker.

whunter 08-02-2010 06:11 PM

Answer
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by 1977busman (Post 2517085)
so does peachparts offer complete injectors? If not where can I get them complete, columbus diesel is not returning my calls for rebuilds... and i actually found a 91 300d that "needs timing belt" for $488 but hes pretty far away. Also I am pushing the beater car off to the side for now...;)

Duplicated from post# 13..



300D 2.5
W124.128
1990-1993
OM602.962


BOSCH
Fuel Injector Assembly, (Rebuilt) 5 Per Car
MB# 003 017 29 21 88

Fastlane: Diesel Injector
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6050780581 diesel Looped Fuel Return Hose, one meter
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1977busman 08-05-2010 11:06 PM

well this worked out oddly....
 
Well with the 92 on the back burner for a bit, I started looking into selling the 1977 vw bus for some extra project money. well an add came up on craigslist for a 1983 300sd that wanted to trade for something different but didnt want to sell. I thought what the heck i mmise well call. well she had been looking for a bus and traded even. The car has no rust, has been repainted, and runs like a champ with some charging issues. But the interior is shot, but it runs and drives for now rather well...

Joseph_Conrad 08-05-2010 11:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 1977busman (Post 2519768)
Well with the 92 on the back burner for a bit, I started looking into selling the 1977 vw bus for some extra project money. well an add came up on craigslist for a 1983 300sd that wanted to trade for something different but didnt want to sell. I thought what the heck i mmise well call. well she had been looking for a bus and traded even. The car has no rust, has been repainted, and runs like a champ with some charging issues. But the interior is shot, but it runs and drives for now rather well...

Nice. Funny how things work out. Pictures if you have the chance! :)

whunter 08-05-2010 11:27 PM

ROFL
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by 1977busman (Post 2519768)
Well with the 92 on the back burner for a bit, I started looking into selling the 1977 vw bus for some extra project money. well an add came up on craigslist for a 1983 300sd that wanted to trade for something different but didnt want to sell. I thought what the heck i mmise well call. well she had been looking for a bus and traded even. The car has no rust, has been repainted, and runs like a champ with some charging issues. But the interior is shot, but it runs and drives for now rather well...

:D
Are you obsessed with MB diesels?
http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/showthread.php?p=583607


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