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82 240D - oil leak around valve cover
Hi All,
Relatively new to me 240D. Love this car. When I bought the car the engine was clean and dry. Adjusted the valves and changed the oil. All went well. I thought I cleaned everything up when I installed the new gasket. It all went off a hitch and the car runs like a top! Now oil leaks around the valve cover. Dribbles down and around. This occurs at a significant but I would not say an alarming pace, 2qts/2500 miles, but messy, messy. Here is some additional info. - previous owner used 20W50. I changed to 15W40 (dino) when I did the oil and valves. - there is some blowback, which concerns me slightly. - car has 180K miles, runs perfectly. - the valve cover bolts were not terribly tight, so I naturally tightened them to try to stop the leak. Checked today they were ~25ftlb so I backd them off a bit (it was leaking before I tightened them). So, should I try replacing the valve cover gasket? Was the change in viscosity a problem given there is some blowback? Thoughts welcome.
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___________ 1982 240D (4-speed) 1988 Volvo 240DL (5-speed wagon) 1999 Volvo V70 2002 Volvo XC70 (the grocery getter) Last edited by Sulawesi; 08-14-2010 at 07:18 PM. |
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I always change the valve cover gasket when I adjust the valves. So that would be my first suggestion.
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Sorry I forgot to mention that I did change the gasket...it seemed to go on smoothly. I will edit to make that clearer.
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___________ 1982 240D (4-speed) 1988 Volvo 240DL (5-speed wagon) 1999 Volvo V70 2002 Volvo XC70 (the grocery getter) |
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It is possible to have some dirt under the sealing surface or even in the Gasket Groove if you did not clean the Head and Cover off before removing it.
It is also not unknow for the Valve cover to develop a hair line crack or even be warpped. I also suppose it is possible that the prior owner had overtightend the nuts and squished out the Aluminum and not you cannot tighten it down as well. Even when I install a new Valve Cover Gasket I go to the local 99 Cent store and get a tube of Silicone Sealant. I put a thin bead inside of the Gasket Groove; also I degrease the bottom edges of the valve cover. After the Gasket is on the Valve Cover I put a thin layer of Silicon Sealant around the bottom of the Gasket. I wipe off all the Oil and dirt from the Cylinder Head and install the Valve Cover. I only slightly snug down the Nuts and allow the Silicone Sealant to cure several hours; after that I tighten it for good. When I re-use the Valve Cover Gasket I just rub off the old Silicone Sealant on the bottom edge and renew with new Silicone Sealant.
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Clean/degrease it all with a good volatile solvent like petrol. RTV/silicone in the groove & on the mating surface on the head works well. Makes it a little harder to get off next time, but no leaks.
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25 ftlb is a little too much for the valve cover nuts. FSM states 15 NM or 11ftlb of torque.
Charlie
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Sounds like I should get a new gasket and try again...
How do you clean all the oil of the block?
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But there is something else that needs checking with the VC off. The vertical studs that the nuts screw on to sometimes are loose in their threads. Even with a new VCG and proper torquing if one or more of these studs are loose an oil dribble under the VCG will occur. Don't ask how I know this.
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In my case I degrease and clean the Valve Cover/Head area before I loosen the Valve cover so there is not dirt there. After that I only wipe the surface on the head where the Valve Cover Gasket Seats with a clean Rag and that leaves a light film of Oil on the Head. Or you could to as layback40 said and degrease it with a solovent soaked on a Rag. I use Brake Cleaner for that sort of job. If you do that the Silicone Sealant will Glue itself to the Head and you will get a really good seal; but not so bad that you cannot get it loose.
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1) if you just put the new valve cover gasket on, its probably still good, no need to get another one
2) degrease the mating surfaces 3) use a little RTV like the guys here suggest... I like using the "indian head gasket compound" or sometimes it is just called "shellac gasket compound", its a very mild adhesive, it does not quite dry and it makes the gasket sticky. 4) these are great cars and all, and we all love them, but only four nuts holding a valve cover on a 5 cylinder motor is not their best design work... so unless you do all the degreasing perfectly, leave no microscopic particles on mating surfaces, say at least 12 Hail Marys, and kick a leprechaun, it's gonna leak...
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My guess is a warped valve cover or some unseen dirt around the gasket when you installed the new one. It is also very easy to not seat the gasket properly when installing. I didn't get mine right and had oil leaking all over but after removing and re-installing it was perfect and still is.
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I was having a similar problem on a 300D. I cleaned things up good, glued the gasket to the valve cover with Permatex high tack and then put Permatex tack & seal on the other side. Tack & seal does not harden. The plan is for it to come loose easily at my next valve adjust.
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