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Old 11-12-2013, 12:55 PM
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Here are the wires to go after in the car trunk near the latch (1987 300D)

Red/White or maybe just Red is HOT +12 all the time, from battery.
Brown/Blk or maybe just Brown is GROUND all the time.
Yellow is the input to the computer.
Supply a +12 pulse on yellow (taken from the red wire is fine) for UNLOCK all doors.
Supply a GROUND pulse on yellow (taken from Brown wire is fine) for LOCK all doors.


Try supplying the brief pulses on the Yellow wire MANUALLY by touching it for half second to the mentioned supply +12 or GROUND. When that's working, wire up your remote receiver relay to give these pulses when using the remote button.

When you release the button make sure the remote receiver is releasing the relay so the pulse comes off the Yellow wire so it is allowed to hang "free" again. Some remote receivers have a "latching" feature, don't pick that, use the "momemtary" feature... in other words the relay only holds for as long as you are holding the remote button.

The EMT diagram shows the Yellow input "resting" on +12 (Unlock). That's just a convention for diagramming, don't actually do that. Let Yellow hang free when neither remote button is being pressed, offering no signal to the computer. In order for you do this, you need a 2-channel remote, with 2 relays. If you try to use a 1-channel remote with 1 relay and just take off from its N.O. and N.C. contacts you won't be successful. (That was my first try).
Your 12volt remote 2-channel receiver will get power from the Red and Brown wires mentioned above.

The best (fail safe and break-before-make) way to wire a 2-channel 2-relay remote receiver to the car Yellow wire is as follows:

Suppose channel 1 relay 1 is for "Lock", and channel 2 is for "unlock" connect as follows:

Relay 1 Normally Closed terminal - not connected to anything
Relay 1 Normally Open terminal - connected to GROUND
Relay 1 Wiper arm terminal - connected to Relay 2 Normally Closed terminal

Relay 2 Normally Closed terminal - connected to Relay 1 Wiper arm
Relay 2 Normally Open terminal - connected to +12
Relay 2 Wiper arm terminal - connected to car Yellow wire (input to computer)

If you draw this out, you'll see what's going on.

When you wire it this way:
  • it is impossible to create a short circuit by pressing both remote buttons at the same time, or if one relay is stuck on (welded contacts on closure) pressing the other button does not create a short
  • if you press both buttons at the same time, the effect will be same as pressing just the UNLOCK button (fail safe = open state)
  • any random malfunction of the receiver unit causing it to activate any combination or sequence of relay pulls, is safe.
  • Yellow wire can only possibly receive one kind of signal at a time, and rests in neutral (no signal).
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Scott McPhee

1987 300D

Last edited by scottmcphee; 11-12-2013 at 03:09 PM.
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