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Recommendations on front caliper replacement
Hello,
I discovered today that both of the front calipers (ATE) are leaking. Although I have discovered DeliveryValve's excellent pictorial (Resealing w123/126 calipers) on servicing the seals in a caliper, I am leaning toward replacing them with refurbished parts. I note that Bendix calipers are much cheaper than ATE calipers. Is it possible to install Bendix calipers on a 1978 240D outfitted for ATE calipers? Is there any downside to installing Bendix instead of ATE?
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'Betsy the Getaway Car' : 1978 MB 240D, 582k 'The Mistress of the Sea' : 2001 Giant Boulder, 10.30k |
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They are interchangeable = use two Bendix or two Ate.
Never run one of each. Have a great day.
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ASE Master Mechanic asemastermechanic@juno.com Prototype R&D/testing: Thermal & Aerodynamic System Engineering (TASE) Senior vehicle instrumentation technician. Noise Vibration and Harshness (NVH). Dynamometer. Heat exchanger durability. HV-A/C Climate Control. Vehicle build. Fleet Durability Technical Quality Auditor. Automotive Technical Writer 1985 300SD 1983 300D 1984 190D 2003 Volvo V70 2002 Honda Civic https://www.boldegoist.com/ |
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Rebuild them yourself. Kits are available. As long as the pistons aren't stuck in the bores, its easy to rebuild the calipers.
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Rebuilding them is not too tough. Just take your time.
Most of the Rebuilts I have ever seen are Junk. I decided on rebuilts for the rear on mine when I first picked up my car. I wish now that I had taken the time to rebuild the originals. I still kept one of them (ATE). If I ever run across one in a salvage yard that has the ATE's, I'm going to grab them, rebuild them myself and replace the "rebuilts" I got from the local auto parts store.
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Thanks, folks. I found a junkyard car with some front calipers that worked when the thing (busted drivetrain) came off the truck. I may yet end up resealing them, though I hope they will be decent as is. Will know tomorrow when I remove them.
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'Betsy the Getaway Car' : 1978 MB 240D, 582k 'The Mistress of the Sea' : 2001 Giant Boulder, 10.30k |
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How would one determine whether they have Bendix or ATE calipers on their 126?
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On some nights I still believe that a car with the fuel gauge on empty can run about fifty more miles if you have the right music very loud on the radio. - HST 1983 300SD - 305000 1984 Toyota Landcruiser - 190000 1994 GMC Jimmy - 203000 https://media.giphy.com/media/X3nnss8PAj5aU/giphy.gif |
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- '79 240D - engine swap complete! Engine broken in! 28-31 mpg! Lovin' the ride! - '86 190D (W201-126) - 2.5 NA engine, 5 speed, cloth interior, manual climate controls, 33-34 mpg (sold to forum member). |
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BENDIX or ATE caliper? |
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On some nights I still believe that a car with the fuel gauge on empty can run about fifty more miles if you have the right music very loud on the radio. - HST 1983 300SD - 305000 1984 Toyota Landcruiser - 190000 1994 GMC Jimmy - 203000 https://media.giphy.com/media/X3nnss8PAj5aU/giphy.gif |
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Thanks whunter.
Well, just got new ATE calipers to replace my Bendix calipers. Nowadays, the ATE's are considerably cheaper than the Bendix. $55 vs $95 apiece... Tomorrow or the next day they go on, and I can start using the brakes again...
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On some nights I still believe that a car with the fuel gauge on empty can run about fifty more miles if you have the right music very loud on the radio. - HST 1983 300SD - 305000 1984 Toyota Landcruiser - 190000 1994 GMC Jimmy - 203000 https://media.giphy.com/media/X3nnss8PAj5aU/giphy.gif |
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I bought a pair of rebuilt rear ATE calipers from the Mercedes dealer in 2001. One caliper only lasted 3,500 miles before leaking. It was replaced at no charge. Since then I haven't bought a rebuilt caliper - I just rebuild them myself. I've also gone from Bendix to ATE with no problems.
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Tom Evans 69 280SE 91K (wish I still had it) 73 220D 98K 78 300D 134K 78 300D 185K 81 300SD 301K (still have) 82 300SD 321K (still have) 84 300D 268K 84 6.2 Diesel GMC Suburban 225K (a whole different story!) |
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I'm going to hold onto the two best bendix calipers from my car and the parts car, for future rebuilding. Right now I have backed myself into a must-be-fixed yesterday corner, as my mother-in-law is coming to visit, and needs to borrow our extra vehicle...
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On some nights I still believe that a car with the fuel gauge on empty can run about fifty more miles if you have the right music very loud on the radio. - HST 1983 300SD - 305000 1984 Toyota Landcruiser - 190000 1994 GMC Jimmy - 203000 https://media.giphy.com/media/X3nnss8PAj5aU/giphy.gif |
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This is what I would want on my big sedan. Not sure if the factory mastercylinder is compatible, but these are some serious brakes.
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um... are they compatible with our vehicles at all? the rotors do not look like they would bolt in, and the mounts for the calipers do not appear wide enough to bolt into our spindles...
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