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Old 12-04-2010, 03:56 PM
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E320 CDI with breakpulse

Hi all, I have a 2006 E320 CDI with aprox 88K. I have just noticed that the breaks pulse a little when I break. I had the rotars looked at and there was a very little rust which was machined off -- It was fine for a few hundred miles and now it seems to be back

Does anyone know about a recall that was for some break module on this car? Is there a web site that I can visit that would give me some direction.

Thanks and to all MERRY CHRISTMAS

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Old 12-04-2010, 04:17 PM
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I had the same thing on my CDI, after the rotor were machened they only last 5k miles or so...I bought new rotors and pads that solved the problem 30k plus mikes later perfect!
Recall had nothing to do with brakes pulsing.
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Old 12-05-2010, 12:42 AM
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Front rotors are ventilated discs. As the rotors wear they are more easily deformed between the rotor ventilation "blades" - the brake pad pressure and heat cause these surfaces to bow into the air flow channels making the surface wavy. When you machined them you merely cut down the material on the discs over these "blades" and made it even with the disc surfaces between the "blades." Now even thinner, the effect reoccurs. The front discs on these cars should be replaced with the pads. They come off easily and are actually pretty cheap.

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Old 12-05-2010, 01:12 AM
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X2 with Jim,
Modern ventilated disks have to be treated with caution. Its not worth machining them. All you will do is increase the risk of a crack & a potential lock up. I have seen a disk that had a wedge crack right out & the wheel lock. Its not nice at all.
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Old 12-05-2010, 09:51 AM
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I was pricing rotors and brake pads for this car on this website out of curiosity when I saw a warning by the parts that you have to disable the braking system with some kind of computer before changing the brake pads because serious injury could result? Is this true? Can the home mechanic no longer change brakes himself on these newer diesels?

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Old 12-05-2010, 09:53 AM
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I was pricing rotors and brake pads for this car on this website out of curiosity when I saw a warning by the parts that you have to disable the braking system with some kind of computer before changing the brake pads because serious injury could result? Is this true? Can the home mechanic no longer change brakes himself on these newer diesels?

Scott
Here's the warning:

"SBC brake system MUST be deactivated using SBD 102 or Mercedes Star Diagnosis tool. When activated, the SBC brake system builds up high pressure in the brake system. The automatic extension of the caliper pistons may result in serious bodily injury. Brake pressure may cause brake fluid to escape at high pressure, with possible resulting damage or injury. Maintenance or repair work must never be performed on an active SBC brake sustem. The SBC brake system pushes out the brake master cylinder when:;"

So what's the home mechanic to do?

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Disconnect the BIG electrical connector at the SBC pump.

Even then, don't open/close any doors while working on brakes.

But really the days are gone when the "home mechanic" just dives in with few to no tools.

Don't even attempt an oil change on a modern Mercedes without reference to factory procedures.

http://www.startekinfo.com/StarTek/outside/11498/?requestedDocId=11498

For example, when you replace rotors, you also replace all the bolts you remove, i.e. don't reuse them.
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Disconnect the BIG electrical connector at the SBC pump.

Even then, don't open/close any doors while working on brakes.

But really the days are gone when the "home mechanic" just dives in with few to no tools.

Don't even attempt an oil change on a modern Mercedes without reference to factory procedures.

http://www.startekinfo.com/StarTek/outside/11498/?requestedDocId=11498

For example, when you replace rotors, you also replace all the bolts you remove, i.e. don't reuse them.
Thanks for the link. As these cars are now dropping into the teens I think we will see more DIY types on this forum picking them up. It would be nice to have some type of DIY articles for basic procedures like oil changes, brakes, etc. The apparent complexity is, however, incredible. It looks like service manuals are a must for anyone.

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