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Old 01-11-2011, 09:59 PM
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this lift looks cool, but it's kinda low...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L5e5c8euXEw&NR=1

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I found this interesting...
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Old 01-11-2011, 10:13 PM
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they use similar lifts on flight decks for planes... a tad larger of course...
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John HAUL AWAY, OR CRUSHED CARS!!! HELP ME keep the cars out of the crusher! A/C Thread
"as I ride with my a/c on... I have fond memories of sweaty oily saturdays and spewing R12 into the air. THANKS for all you do!

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Old 01-11-2011, 10:17 PM
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this lift looks cool, but it's kinda low...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L5e5c8euXEw&NR=1
I think the max under car height is 52". Not ideal but it will work in 8' ceiling height garages. price is just under $2k I think.
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Old 01-11-2011, 10:24 PM
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Uhh...at first I thought that was attached to the exhaust?
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Old 01-11-2011, 10:37 PM
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I found this interesting...
The guy that travels the world in the lifted yellow 300TD has one of these.
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Old 01-11-2011, 10:48 PM
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Anyone know of the best lifts for the home garage? I'm building the garage so i need to design it with the lift in mind. The plan is to have one bay with the lift and 12 to 14 ft ceiling at the lowest point , and the other will have second story storage. I see there are several types -- 4 post with drive on ramps, two post with the arms that swing out , scissor lift, and mini scissor lift .

And what about those really big car ramps that are about 3 feet tall and you drive the whole car on it? I saw them outside a transmission shop.

I only have experience with a two post lift with arms that swing out. It could barely lift the suburban. It only got the wagon about 5 feet up. It was a little worn out i think. Anyway, it was great to work under. Lots of room. You could get at everything. Those seem like the best for getting at the whole car.

What about those scissor lifts? Can you work under them?

Can anyone recommend a good lift for the home mechanic?
There are extensive discussions and threads on the Garage Forum, and some debates too. That forum delves deep into lifts and their uses in a wide variety of climates and applications. You may want to take a look.

Naturally there are supporters of different kinds of lifts, brands, price ranges, weight limits etc.

I'm grabbing one that might be too much but it's hard to beat: a garage owner who's retiring and sold his building has a 20 foot, drive-on four-post commercial lift with a weight limit of 30,000 and he will deliver, if I will pay him 2,000. So I can't pass this up, just need to wait for warmer weather.

You may want to talk to local garages, a lot of larger, heavier lifts are going for cheap, as people change businesses in diffeent locations. Just a suggestion.
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Old 01-11-2011, 11:59 PM
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Anyone know of the best lifts for the home garage? I'm building the garage so i need to design it with the lift in mind.
Since you are building consider a pit! MUCH more user friendly cheaper and versatile than a lift - particularly when working alone! I have always had one in my garage and I can guarantee you would never regret it. No clutter and can be covered when not in use - tools all handy on garage floor. There are many occasions when you need the car on its wheels or need to jack or block up in places. (e.g. tranny or suspension removal etc). Think about it.
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Old 01-12-2011, 12:31 AM
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Thanks all for replies. Lots of cool ideas. I'm want the lift for wrenching. Parking under a project car sounds cool too. But I have a 2 carport acting as my garage now out by the road so parking is not an issue. The neighbors love it I'm sure. Imagine all you who won't post a picture of your messy garage having no front or back walls on that garage and it being out 20 feet off the road. Its kind of embarrassing but i keep cars parked in front of it most of the time.

I like the pit idea. I had thought of that earlier but then thought it would be harder to build and forgot about it and my friend doing my concrete foundation and the brains behind the operation didn't think much of the idea.. I think i'm going rethink that though. Do you just do a concrete block rectangle around your pit and then pour around it and inside the block? Or do you make forms and do concrete walls? I'll research on the garage forum. I can see how for most stuff a pit would be the best -- oil change, radiator swap, AC work -- you get the best of both worlds. Plus i could always get a little lift and for when i needed to lift it and i could have bigger second story above the bay that way. Awesome.
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Old 01-12-2011, 12:31 AM
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Uhh...at first I thought that was attached to the exhaust?
Its not? Whats it attached too?
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Old 01-12-2011, 12:38 AM
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If you really want the best solution, look into mobile post lifts like Sefac. They adapt to any vehicle, give completely unobstructed underside access, can be used on any level surface and can be moved out of the way when not in use (very handy for floor cleaning). They can also lift 16,000lbs each.

Its pretty nice for a 6'4" like me to be able to walk upright under a bus.

Those are overkill for cars but I'm sure somebody makes a smaller variant.
That looks cool. so each post has its own hydraulic pump and you just get as many as you need and put em where you want on the car?

Definitely overkill for me. I'm after a safe cheap preferrably used option so i can get better quality.
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Old 01-12-2011, 01:45 AM
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Do you just do a concrete block rectangle around your pit and then pour around it and inside the block? Or do you make forms and do concrete walls? I'll research on the garage forum. I can see how for most stuff a pit would be the best -- oil change, radiator swap, AC work -- you get the best of both worlds. Plus i could always get a little lift and for when i needed to lift it and i could have bigger second story above the bay that way. Awesome.
My pit is 1.5m deep, 1.2m wide and 4.5m long - steps at inside end. Floor is concreted and walls bricked and plastered. Covering is 1 inch X 1foot planking flush with floor. Fluorescent lighting is recessed into walls. Bar fridge is optional. You will need to dispose +/-7m³ of earth.

Think of all the times you're gonna need to work under and over the engine - up down - up down #$$#% .
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Don't see these very often, but I was blessed with a single post air over oil lift that came with the shop building quite some years ago. It will lift a 60's Imperial or Chrysler wagon with the air set at 115 psi. It is very much like a filling station lift from back in the 40's and 50's, with a huge plate over the top of the 1' diameter post and two heavy beams riding on the outside of the post. Whole configuration recesses into an 8" deep mini-pit except for the post which goes down about 5.5'. There are two sliding rigs which are adjusted to lift on the front and rear suspension areas.

It is not really great for our IRS Benzes and it does not handle tranny work at all nor drive shaft work very well. However most other things are handled quite well and is very non-tippy once you set up the sliding lifters. Best of all it is paid for and the ceiling is a nice 12' high. Oh by the way, the required air compressor also came with the buiilding!!
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Pits are a good idea, and a cheaper way to go, maybe. have to figure out the cost of digging the hole, cement forms or cement blocks and the labor to construct it. compared to the cost of a above ground lift. they both have their uses, and good and bad points..

One thing I would recommend with a pit, have an exit on both ends and ventilation. another thing to think about, is ground water seeping in.
there is the safety issues of the open pit if it isn`t covered or safety rails put up after removing the vehicle.

I was looking at the first U-tube video linked, then got to watchng the other videos. sure don`t want this hapening to your MB.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pvNKBe6DZhk&feature=related

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