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Old 03-23-2011, 11:21 PM
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Old 03-23-2011, 11:54 PM
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Old 03-24-2011, 12:42 AM
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I'd like to know if I can add it safely to the diesel in my 81 300D. I know I've used it to cut WVO in my Suburban, and I don't intend to use it "straight". Yes or no? dilution percentage? Thanks, everybody.
Absolutely no problem in using it straight. I have been running my 617 exclusively on straight Jet-A1 (kerosene) for over 14 years now, can't remember the last time I pulled up at a Diesel pump. All Military vehicles and diesel ground equipment (in Iraq etc) use only straight JP8, there has been a single fuel policy for many years now in combat situations.
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Old 03-24-2011, 11:57 AM
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Thanks to Beagle for posting the correct information, to counterbalance the dangerous suggestion by the resident expert on life/wealth/automobiles/home ownership et al to use 50/50 diesel and gasoline.

I could see a neophyte diesel owner reading the misinformation and ruining his injection pump and engine in short order. A little information is a dangerous thing.....

Also, diesel fuel has much improved since the early '80s, so fuel gelling isn't the issue it once was.

I know a guy who rebuilds diesel pumps for a living, and he loves people who use wvo or kerosene or used atf or used motor oil. Simply because it ruins the injector pump. It's a diesel, use diesel in it. This guy rebuilt the $$$ injection pump in the John Deere diesel powered air compressor I own, and I'm sure not run some homemade brew in it, or use any amount of gasoline mixed in the fuel.

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Old 03-24-2011, 02:59 PM
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Well, heh. I hate to say I told you so - but I did. According to this technical sheet - 30% blending ratio of gasoline to diesel fuel.

I don't know that this is from the Mercedes-Benz Owners Manual for their diesels - but the fact is I was right about the gasoline blending after all.
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Old 03-24-2011, 03:21 PM
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Well, heh. I hate to say I told you so - but I did. According to this technical sheet - 30% blending ratio of gasoline.

I don't know that this is from the Mercedes-Benz Owners Manual for their diesels - but the fact is I was right about the gasoline blending after all.
um, nobody said mb didn't at one time recommend a smart amount of Gas blended into DIESEL at extreme cold temps...

you recommended blending gasoline into kerosene.... and running that blend... Um
that would be bad!
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Old 03-24-2011, 03:28 PM
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um, nobody said mb didn't at one time recommend a smart amount of Gas blended into DIESEL at extreme cold temps...

you recommended blending gasoline into kerosene.... and running that blend... Um
that would be bad!
You're correct - heh, I mispoke without thinking through what I was writing.

I'll remove the post so as not to accidentally mislead anyone stumbling across it - thanks!
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Well, heh. I hate to say I told you so - but I did. According to this technical sheet - 30% blending ratio of gasoline to diesel fuel.

I don't know that this is from the Mercedes-Benz Owners Manual for their diesels - but the fact is I was right about the gasoline blending after all.
Yes, it is from the owners manual of an early '80s diesel.

It's not as simple as adding 30% gasoline to diesel fuel, and everthing will be peachy.

If one bothered to read it, it states that low ocatne gasoline or kerosene may be used up to a 30% ratio at temps below -15 degrees Celcius. Obviously kerosene is better, because it has more lubricity than gasoline.

The only reason this should be done is to prevent fuel gelling.

Obviously, this is an extreme measure for extreme weather conditions, and does not do the injector pump or engine any good. Better to avoid doing this unless you absolutly have to. I don't want the diesel newbies to think that they should add gasoline to diesel during the winter as a standard operating procedure.














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I don't want the diesel newbies to think that they should add gasoline to diesel during the winter as a standard operating procedure.

Mixing gasoline with diesel (as above) was bad advice 30 years ago, with the minimal lubricity of today's low and ULSD's its sabotage! The last thing you need to be adding to it is a solvent. Don't do it - EVER. No problem with kerosene as it has ±0.3% sulfur and auto-ignition temp 230°C the same as #1Diesel. If you are an Eskimo use it straight year round.
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