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Old 03-30-2011, 08:05 PM
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lube your linkages!!!

I need a New bowden cable now. Rust killed My old one.! Pics to follow

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Old 03-30-2011, 08:29 PM
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Old 03-30-2011, 08:32 PM
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John, how about a good sticky written by you on how many linkages are in our automobiles and how to access and lube each one of them ?
I know this time of the year you are not very busy... so this project would keep you out of the bars at night for 3 or 4 days...
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Old 03-30-2011, 09:15 PM
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Me, Busy?


OK, here's the dealeo...

I parked the wagon for the winter, and just started unmothballing it...

changed the filters, etc...

adjusted the throttle stop for max travel... (why did I not look the linkages all over...)

and went for a drive. car needed alda adjustment, so I worked that over, and car felt great... and then all of a sudden, it started shifting soft, and WAAAY too early. I'd be in 3rd by 20mph... so.. I figured I'd check and see if my alda tweaking made the trans need bowden adjustment... popped the hood, and the bowden bellows were sitting at an odd angle... and the wire was not connected. problem found for sure...


If I'd just popped ALL the linkages off, and cleaned and lubed them before testing the car out, I'd have been just fine.
I'm so irked... I'll post pics when daylight returns.
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John HAUL AWAY, OR CRUSHED CARS!!! HELP ME keep the cars out of the crusher! A/C Thread
"as I ride with my a/c on... I have fond memories of sweaty oily saturdays and spewing R12 into the air. THANKS for all you do!

My drivers:
1987 190D 2.5Turbo
1987 560SL convertible
1987 190D 2.5-5SPEED!!!

1987 300TD
2005 Dodge Sprinter 2500 158"WB
1994GMC 2500 6.5Turbo truck... I had to put the ladder somewhere!
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Old 03-30-2011, 09:21 PM
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For the throttle linkages the FSM suggests only ATF fluid...
I do not know what people with manual transmissions are supposed to lube their linkages with...LOL
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Old 03-30-2011, 09:44 PM
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Leathermang, at your age, you need a how to on lubing the linkages? Iam shocked. Just kidding.

I use grease, Synthetic grease. I know what the FSM says, I have a pile of them. I pop them off and have a little brush to goop them up with. I probably do it twice a year.

You know, us manual trany guys do use ATF in our gear boxes. .

When Iam at PNP I`ll pop off some linkages, and very seldom see any that have been lubed. most are dry or rusty. trying to pop them off with a screwdriver, usually bends them. the ones on our cars because they are lubed, pop right off.

There is a little springy circlip inside the socket part that keeps them snuggly on. I have pulled some off that are dusty rusty, and the circlip falls out in pieces.

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Old 03-30-2011, 09:54 PM
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Old 03-30-2011, 09:55 PM
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I lube my linkage every night. Sometimes I'll let my girlfriend borrow the greasegun for a bit too.
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I lube my linkage every night. Sometimes I'll let my girlfriend borrow the greasegun for a bit too.
Talk about a sticky ending
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Charmalu, I am old enough that PNP to me stands for a type of transistor.... the other being NPN.... and I know what a Sine Wave is... ask some kids at the counter of some computer store what that is... even at Radio shack and they give you a blank look...
The Redline MTF in my trans is just as thin as any ATF I have ever seen... what I should have asked... given the assumption that the FSM meant for one to just pull the trans dipstick out and drop some on the opened and cleaned linkage... is how one is supposed to ACCESS whatever kind of fluid one has in their manual trans... I had to crawl under mine and pull the plug the last time...
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Yeah I remember sine waves from my Navy days back in the early 60`s. I was a Radioman on a Destroyer. I don`t remember PNP transistors, etc...
All the radio back then was still tubes, and nothing Digital. all Analog.

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there were three HP ratings on the OM616...

1) Not much power
2) Even less power
3) Not nearly enough power!! 240D w/auto

Anyone that thinks a 240D is slow drives too fast.

80 240D Naturally Exasperated, 4-Spd 388k DD 150mph spedo 3:58 Diff

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Old 03-31-2011, 05:00 AM
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"Radio Shack: You've got questions, we've got vacant stares." Its definitely not from my generation (in my 30's) but I do know my way around the guts of a tube amp - they still haven't made anything that sounds better to us musicians. Takes that sine wave and kinda shaves the peaks off of in a nice smooth fashion.

As for the linkages, I've been using white lithium grease. I'm thinking about the bowden cable now though. I'll bet it would be effort well spent to give it a shot of motorcycle cable lube.
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I use AeroKroil. It works great and makes the engine bay have a fresh pine scent.
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Old 03-31-2011, 09:55 AM
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I use AeroKroil. It works great and makes the engine bay have a fresh pine scent.
AAACCK!!!

Kroil is great for many things, but this is not one of them!
it's fine to spray on before you try to pull off the linkages, or to put on the threads before adjusting length...
but it's useless as a lube. it'll dry out in short order.
atf is recommended. chain lube should be a good choice. lithium would work, but it's not the best.
kroil?
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John HAUL AWAY, OR CRUSHED CARS!!! HELP ME keep the cars out of the crusher! A/C Thread
"as I ride with my a/c on... I have fond memories of sweaty oily saturdays and spewing R12 into the air. THANKS for all you do!

My drivers:
1987 190D 2.5Turbo
1987 560SL convertible
1987 190D 2.5-5SPEED!!!

1987 300TD
2005 Dodge Sprinter 2500 158"WB
1994GMC 2500 6.5Turbo truck... I had to put the ladder somewhere!
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Old 03-31-2011, 10:04 AM
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I think we should split these suggestions between the ball linkages...and things covered...like Bowden Cables ...
I like the idea of being able to spray something with a tube applicator into a covered system...and hope it will travel down the tube... As far as I know ... the only Bowden Cable picture I have seen had a curly Q on the end.. meaning that unlike old speedo cables.. which could be pulled from the topside, wiped off, relubed with something like lithium white grease and reinserted... I think we are restricted by that curly Q to spraying into one or both ends to try to keep them lubed ... ( if I am wrong on this please correct me )....

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