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07-08-2011, 04:46 PM
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IP Oil in my 78 300D
Just curious, what type of oil is in the IP? Does it have it's own supply, or does the engine oil circulate within it? What is the diaphram on the top of the IP, and where does the hose go to(missing)? Thanks!
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07-08-2011, 05:02 PM
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Your IP should be lubricated with the engine`s own oil. Iam not sure on the none turbo engines, but the turbo engines have a small black oil line on the lower side of the pump. It is connected to the block forward of the pump, and connects to the rear side. this is the oil supply line.
The diaphram (the little square or round thing on top of the pump? that is an altitude compinsator, it has some bellows inside that are affected by the atmospheric pressure. as you go up in altitude, it cuts back on the fuel to compinsate for the lack of oxygen. otherwise you would just be blowing black smoke out the tailpipe. The little tube on the side, has no hose connected to it. Charlie
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there were three HP ratings on the OM616... 1) Not much power 2) Even less power 3) Not nearly enough power!! 240D w/auto Anyone that thinks a 240D is slow drives too fast. 80 240D Naturally Exasperated, 4-Spd 388k DD 150mph spedo 3:58 Diff We are advised to NOT judge ALL Muslims by the actions of a few lunatics, but we are encouraged to judge ALL gun owners by the actions of a few lunatics. Funny how that works
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07-08-2011, 05:27 PM
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The earlier engines like the 220D, think they used the OM615 engine. on those you have to add engine oil to the IP. there is a dip stick as I recall.
The neighbor has a 74 220D out in his field, been the about 10 yrs, said I could have it. I need to go check the engine to refresh my mind.  Charlie
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there were three HP ratings on the OM616... 1) Not much power 2) Even less power 3) Not nearly enough power!! 240D w/auto Anyone that thinks a 240D is slow drives too fast. 80 240D Naturally Exasperated, 4-Spd 388k DD 150mph spedo 3:58 Diff We are advised to NOT judge ALL Muslims by the actions of a few lunatics, but we are encouraged to judge ALL gun owners by the actions of a few lunatics. Funny how that works
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07-09-2011, 01:44 AM
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I've just looked through chapter 07-200 in the FSM. It seems as though only the early 4 cylinder diesels needed to have their oil topped up when refitting. There's a grainy picture of a cap on the side of the IP. You are meant to top up with engine oil. According to the information I can find the 78 300D had a MW pump.
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1992 W201 190E 1.8 171,000 km - Daily driver 1981 W123 300D ~ 100,000 miles / 160,000 km - project car stripped to the bone 1965 Land Rover Series 2a Station Wagon CIS recovery therapy! 1961 Volvo PV544 Bare metal rat rod-ish thing I'm here to chat about cars and to help others - I'm not here "to always be right" like an internet warrior  Don't leave that there - I'll take it to bits!
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07-09-2011, 03:02 AM
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Army, you have the European models with the "M" pump on your side of the pond. the exported models to the U.S. got the "MW" pump. correct?
I have only come across 2 "M" pumps in the Junk Yards, and I have seen a lot of non turbo OM617. Charlie
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there were three HP ratings on the OM616... 1) Not much power 2) Even less power 3) Not nearly enough power!! 240D w/auto Anyone that thinks a 240D is slow drives too fast. 80 240D Naturally Exasperated, 4-Spd 388k DD 150mph spedo 3:58 Diff We are advised to NOT judge ALL Muslims by the actions of a few lunatics, but we are encouraged to judge ALL gun owners by the actions of a few lunatics. Funny how that works
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07-09-2011, 03:59 AM
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Charlie is correct, your '78 is lubed by the engine. And yes the earlier 4 cyl ones had their own oil reservoir. They had a plug on the side you would remove and then add oil through a cap on the top until fresh oil came out the hole. I think '76 was the last year for that, then they went to the engine oiled type like the 5 cylinders.
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H.D.B. OBK #45 ----------------------- '75 W115 240D, wife's dd, 197K ........'75 W115 300D, my dd, 245K .. .. ..........'82 W126 300SD, the 'someday' project
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#8
07-09-2011, 07:18 AM
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I'm no expert I haven't been in this game for long enough. If you look up chapter 07-001 in the FSM you'll see lists and lists of variations of what should have been put there in the first place. The lists are confusing but I think but with care you can find out a whole bunch of stuff. My '81 non turbo has a M / RSF pump - have you seen many of them?
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1992 W201 190E 1.8 171,000 km - Daily driver 1981 W123 300D ~ 100,000 miles / 160,000 km - project car stripped to the bone 1965 Land Rover Series 2a Station Wagon CIS recovery therapy! 1961 Volvo PV544 Bare metal rat rod-ish thing I'm here to chat about cars and to help others - I'm not here "to always be right" like an internet warrior Don't leave that there - I'll take it to bits!
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#9
07-09-2011, 11:27 AM
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Tristan, you may have an earlier FSM, mine doesn`t have that exact section on the Injection pump.
My manual is "Service Manual Engine 617.95 Turbo Diesel". Mine is listed under section 07.1-001 Only thing mine has listed for 1980 model year is: Model> 123.193, engine> 617.952, Injection Punp> PES 5 MW 55/320 RS 16, governor> RW 375/2200 MW 28-1, Delivery Pump> FP/K 22 MW 22, Test values MB-sheet edition> 3.0 g 5th edition. Like I mentioned above, I have only seen 2 "M" pumps in the Junk Yards. I also have them.  Charlie
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there were three HP ratings on the OM616... 1) Not much power 2) Even less power 3) Not nearly enough power!! 240D w/auto Anyone that thinks a 240D is slow drives too fast. 80 240D Naturally Exasperated, 4-Spd 388k DD 150mph spedo 3:58 Diff We are advised to NOT judge ALL Muslims by the actions of a few lunatics, but we are encouraged to judge ALL gun owners by the actions of a few lunatics. Funny how that works
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07-09-2011, 05:44 PM
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Have you got access to a CD FSM? If so start out by picking 300D and then follow on to chapter 7. Does that help?
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1992 W201 190E 1.8 171,000 km - Daily driver 1981 W123 300D ~ 100,000 miles / 160,000 km - project car stripped to the bone 1965 Land Rover Series 2a Station Wagon CIS recovery therapy! 1961 Volvo PV544 Bare metal rat rod-ish thing I'm here to chat about cars and to help others - I'm not here "to always be right" like an internet warrior Don't leave that there - I'll take it to bits!
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#11
07-09-2011, 07:01 PM
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Some where in my dis-organised/organised pile of stuff, I think I have some CD-FSM I bought on E-Bay a few years back. Now where did I put those?
  .It`s 3pm, I came in for a break doing some out side chores, flipped on the computer to see what is going on, and grabbed a beer. Just read the warning on the back of the bottle. Government Warning: "according to the Surgen General, consumption of this product, will put a dampner on all out side projects, and any car repairs for the remainder of the day". Dang, I was going to do the valves on the 240.  Charlie
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there were three HP ratings on the OM616... 1) Not much power 2) Even less power 3) Not nearly enough power!! 240D w/auto Anyone that thinks a 240D is slow drives too fast. 80 240D Naturally Exasperated, 4-Spd 388k DD 150mph spedo 3:58 Diff We are advised to NOT judge ALL Muslims by the actions of a few lunatics, but we are encouraged to judge ALL gun owners by the actions of a few lunatics. Funny how that works Last edited by charmalu; 07-10-2011 at 03:21 AM.
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07-10-2011, 03:11 AM
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Charlie - that link is top secret - we're not meant to post it!
I'd rather that site didn't get taken off line - it saves me a lot of hassle finding my CD. I for one would appreciate it if you'd delete the link. I am so disorganised I need all the help I can get. Take a look at what greeted me when I opened my garage door yesterday. (I had to laugh) 
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1992 W201 190E 1.8 171,000 km - Daily driver 1981 W123 300D ~ 100,000 miles / 160,000 km - project car stripped to the bone 1965 Land Rover Series 2a Station Wagon CIS recovery therapy! 1961 Volvo PV544 Bare metal rat rod-ish thing I'm here to chat about cars and to help others - I'm not here "to always be right" like an internet warrior Don't leave that there - I'll take it to bits!
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#13
07-10-2011, 03:24 AM
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Request accomplished
 .Charlie
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there were three HP ratings on the OM616... 1) Not much power 2) Even less power 3) Not nearly enough power!! 240D w/auto Anyone that thinks a 240D is slow drives too fast. 80 240D Naturally Exasperated, 4-Spd 388k DD 150mph spedo 3:58 Diff We are advised to NOT judge ALL Muslims by the actions of a few lunatics, but we are encouraged to judge ALL gun owners by the actions of a few lunatics. Funny how that works
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07-10-2011, 01:31 PM
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1992 W201 190E 1.8 171,000 km - Daily driver 1981 W123 300D ~ 100,000 miles / 160,000 km - project car stripped to the bone 1965 Land Rover Series 2a Station Wagon CIS recovery therapy! 1961 Volvo PV544 Bare metal rat rod-ish thing I'm here to chat about cars and to help others - I'm not here "to always be right" like an internet warrior Don't leave that there - I'll take it to bits!
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